Smithman's route from apartment 5a to the beach according to Pathfinder.

[pathfinder73]

Then how do you know about all these holes suitable for hiding bodies?  IMO that photo makes it look like a not very good place for hiding bodies, but if someone who has actually been there tells me that it is, then fair enough.

You gotta be kidding me. Can't hide a 3 year old here! Do you see the person in this photo?

Low tide 10pm 3 May

[Alfred R Jones]

You gotta be kidding me. Can't hide a 3 year old here! Do you see the person in this photo?

The person in the far distance?  Yes.  And...?

[pathfinder73]

The person in the far distance?  Yes.  And...?

That is a great place to hide in the dark.

[Anna]

You gotta be kidding me. Can't hide a 3 year old here! Do you see the person in this photo?

Low tide 10pm 3 May

The full area can be seen here. A long way from 5A and the beach?

https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/111144785370961399848/gphoto/5873795772824280930?gl=th&hl=th&heading=160&pitch=90&fovy=75

[pathfinder73]

The full area can be seen here. A long way from 5A and the beach?

https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/111144785370961399848/gphoto/5873795772824280930?gl=th&hl=th&heading=160&pitch=90&fovy=75

Thanks Anna. About 200 metres away from the Smithman sighting so not far away.

[sadie]

That is a great place to hide in the dark.

Slippery rocks easy to walk over in the dark on a blustery evening, carrying a child, do you think?

I dont think so.

And if it was that easy, surely everyone would have been searching there during the night?

Or at least early the next morning.



Now did Smithman carry some lead weights or brick-ends as well? ... cos the tide was just coming in.





I have walked along the promenade once, but it was in 2010 and I cannot claim to be able to remember it in detail.

[pathfinder73]

Slippery rocks easy to walk over in the dark on a blustery evening, carrying a child, do you think?

I dont think so.

And if it was that easy, surely everyone would have been searching there during the night?

Or at least early the next morning.



Now did Smithman carry some lead weights or brick-ends as well? ... cos the tide was just coming in.





I have walked along the promenade once, but it was in 2010 and I cannot claim to be able to remember it in detail.

Amazing what you can do when your ass is on the line and to not get locked up. Getting over rocks is nothing. The beach is an obvious hiding place in the dark and you don't need a shovel. Maybe Shining can offer his opinion on the area for hiding once he's had a closer look?

[ShiningInLuz]

Just a little way up from the Smithman sighting.  I think it was Alice who was waiting for Godot.  I think Godot's was closed for refurb in May 2007, but here is Godot's 4 Aug 2015 style. 

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[Alfred R Jones]

Amazing what you can do when your ass is on the line and to not get locked up. Getting over rocks is nothing. The beach is an obvious hiding place in the dark and you don't need a shovel. Maybe Shining can offer his opinion on the area for hiding once he's had a closer look?

Isn't that beach completely overlooked by apartments?

[ShiningInLuz]

Smithman sighting.  The Dolphin is the blue and white thingy at the bottom right.  Fernando's is on the gap down the bottom to the left.

All pics 04 Aug 2015.

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[Anna]

Thanks Anna. About 200 metres away from the Smithman sighting so not far away.

The sight from behind the seating area. Using the pointer on the right, you can rotate the scene.
 It does look somewhat overlooked by buildings. I assume those buildings were there, then.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.085052,-8.730441,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s1VCOBBCPkqsAAAQfCVy9NQ!2e0!3e11!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D1VCOBBCPkqsAAAQfCVy9NQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D243.14571%26pitch%3D0!7i9728!8i4864

We appear to be slipping off topic, so time to get back to it, please.

[ShiningInLuz]

TO THE BEACH! TO THE BEACH!

OK, how about TO THE ROCKS!

Photos 4 Aug 2015, roughly 7pm.  I tried doing one that matches up with the photo earlier in the thread.  What my eyeball sees and what my camera sees may be different.

The location appears to be nearly due south from the church.

A couple of interesting things.  First, Luz was heaving with tourists (it's August).  Spot them on the promenade, then count how many were on the rocks.

Second, the view to the east.  My memory said this was a steep drop from the esplanade.  My memory was wrong.  There's just rocks and more rocks, in a gentle slope.

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[Alfred R Jones]

TO THE BEACH! TO THE BEACH!

OK, how about TO THE ROCKS!

Photos 4 Aug 2015, roughly 7pm.  I tried doing one that matches up with the photo earlier in the thread.  What my eyeball sees and what my camera sees may be different.

The location appears to be nearly due south from the church.

A couple of interesting things.  First, Luz was heaving with tourists (it's August).  Spot them on the promenade, then count how many were on the rocks.

Second, the view to the east.  My memory said this was a steep drop from the esplanade.  My memory was wrong.  There's just rocks and more rocks, in a gentle slope.

Find lots of good hiding places for a small body?

[pathfinder73]

TO THE BEACH! TO THE BEACH!

OK, how about TO THE ROCKS!

Photos 4 Aug 2015, roughly 7pm.  I tried doing one that matches up with the photo earlier in the thread.  What my eyeball sees and what my camera sees may be different.

The location appears to be nearly due south from the church.

A couple of interesting things.  First, Luz was heaving with tourists (it's August).  Spot them on the promenade, then count how many were on the rocks.

Second, the view to the east.  My memory said this was a steep drop from the esplanade.  My memory was wrong.  There's just rocks and more rocks, in a gentle slope.

Thanks great work Shining. Do you think it's possible to hide a small child there in the dark from what you saw up-close?  Anybody who was searching before first light (when anything could then be found) will be investigated.

[Brietta]

Thanks great work Shining. Do you think it's possible to hide a small child there in the dark from what you saw up-close?  Anybody who was searching before first light (when anything could then be found) will be investigated.

Tell me you have walked, carrying a burden, on volcanic rocks in the dark on a foreshore which is washed by the sea ... and I will tell you that you are a stranger to the truth.