Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.

[Eleanor]

1. I did not assume anything- I asked a question! was it fair and should that post be deleted.
2. I did not attack you- I have no reason to.
3. So, don't talk to me- I don't mind either way.

Have a nice weekend!

Exclamation Mark?  That remark in itself could be seen as insulting.  But who would bother to delete that?

[Mr Gray]

Here's an idea - why don't we DNA test every white girl in the world  between the ages of 10 & 14 - you never know, we might find Madeleine, though I seriously doubt it.

the police once dna tested an entire village 5,000 men....and solved a murder

[jassi]

Exclamation Mark?  That remark in itself could be seen as insulting.  But who would bother to delete that?

Surely only if you were a grammar freak.

[Eleanor]

I would like to see the insults stopped, but what would be left? some people would not be able to say anything at all. 

You could be right.  It is often a contest in who can come up with the smartest put down.  Not many winners in the frame as far as I can see.  But the odd one or two do make me laugh.  About half and half.

[Eleanor]

It is intrusive and a violation of a childs human right to remove anything of their person without their consent! 3 year olds would not understand what that meant.

It wouldn't be a three year old, would it.  And supposing it ever was then it would just be a game.  Only the parents could turn it into a trauma.

[G-Unit]

Here's an idea - why don't we DNA test every white girl in the world  between the ages of 10 & 14 - you never know, we might find Madeleine, though I seriously doubt it.

Is that racist? Let's test all of 'em. There are those who would like everyone to be on a database of some kind, whether using DNA, eye patterns or chipping. Calum McRae (of findmadeleine website) was keen on fingerprint identification;

miPass
miPass is a fingerprint authentication and recognition system. The system uses known identification documents to verify the user. Examples are UK Passport or Driving Licence. The system also allows parents of young user’s to verify them where they do not yet hold a recognised identification document. miPass is a simple way for an establishment to check the identity of an individual by scanning their fingerprint. It will also speed up users accessing events by removing the need for users to carry identification documents.
http://www.linkedin.com/company/mipass

[Benice]

A pair of careless parents mislaid their child. You didn't. Then you get a knock on the door saying your child looks like the missing child. You know it's yours. Why the goodness gracious should you have to prove it? The mouth swab is no big deal, it's the inference that you're a child snatcher that is insulting.

Why would you expect the police  to know that the person they were talking to was a fine upstanding citizen who wouldn't dream of snatching a child?

Surely it would be the main aim of any child abductor to convince people that they were indeed fine upstanding citizens - who wouldn't dream of committing such a crime?   In fact it would be absolutely essential for them to create that impression IMO.

So  - you have a person protesting their innocence and expressing their absolute disgust at the very idea that THEY of all people could possibly have snatched a child - and refusing to give a DNA test because they have been sooooo insulted!

How could the police (who don't know them from Adam)  possibly know whether they were telling the truth - or putting on a big act?

A dented ego is not a valid reason to be so unhelpful IMO - especially when  the fate of a missing child is the reason for a siimple DNA request.



 

[jassi]

Is that racist? Let's test all of 'em. There are those who would like everyone to be on a database of some kind, whether using DNA, eye patterns or chipping. Calum McRae (of findmadeleine website) was keen on fingerprint identification;

miPass
miPass is a fingerprint authentication and recognition system. The system uses known identification documents to verify the user. Examples are UK Passport or Driving Licence. The system also allows parents of young user’s to verify them where they do not yet hold a recognised identification document. miPass is a simple way for an establishment to check the identity of an individual by scanning their fingerprint. It will also speed up users accessing events by removing the need for users to carry identification documents.
http://www.linkedin.com/company/mipass

I initially read that as McPass and thought it some new identification  initiative by Kate   

[Mr Gray]

so there doesn't seem any consensus to stop the insults...

[Eleanor]

Carry on regardless.  Mods I mean.

[G-Unit]

I think you mean the implication you are a child snatcher is insulting and I agree...so the implication that the mccanns are criminals is also extremely insulting to them..

What have implications about the McCanns got to do with it? We are talking about parents in legal possession of their own children, not those who have mislaid them.

[Eleanor]

What have implications about the McCanns got to do with it? We are talking about parents in legal possession of their own children, not those who have mislaid them.

Erm, Prove It?

[jassi]

Erm, Prove It?

Do they have to? Aren't people considered innocent until proved guilty?

[G-Unit]

Why would you expect the police  to know that the person they were talking to was a fine upstanding citizen who wouldn't dream of snatching a child?

Surely it would be the main aim of any child abductor to convince people that they were indeed fine upstanding citizens - who wouldn't dream of committing such a crime?   In fact it would be absolutely essential for them to create that impression IMO.

So  - you have a person protesting their innocence and expressing their absolute disgust at the very idea that THEY of all people could possibly have snatched a child - and refusing to give a DNA test because they have been sooooo insulted!

How could the police (who don't know them from Adam)  possibly know whether they were telling the truth - or putting on a big act?

A dented ego is not a valid reason to be so unhelpful IMO - especially when  the fate of a missing child is the reason for a siimple DNA request.

In other words everyone should subjugate themselves to the needs of a pair of parents who mislaid their child, and disregard the insulting implication that they are child-snatchers? Never mind if you're accused, just roll over and accept it? Really?

[Lace]

In other words everyone should subjugate themselves to the needs of a pair of parents who mislaid their child, and disregard the insulting implication that they are child-snatchers? Never mind if you're accused, just roll over and accept it? Really?

Well you have the police interviewing people if there has been a murder say,   people who were in the vicinity of the crime.

They are not saying they are the murderer,  but they need to interview them to make sure they had nothing to do with the murder.

If you get parents who have a child who looks like Madeleine,  is the right age has the mark in her eye,  then I would think the parents would think,  perhaps one day something will report a sighting of our child and we will have to prove she isn't Madeleine McCann.    The same as if someone looked exactly like someone who murdered someone would have to prove it wasn't him/her.

I doubt if the parents are going to be nasty about it,  just resigned to the fact.   After all when proof is given then they are cleared aren't they?