Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.

[Benice]

In other words everyone should subjugate themselves to the needs of a pair of parents who mislaid their child, and disregard the insulting implication that they are child-snatchers? Never mind if you're accused, just roll over and accept it? Really?

AFAIAC the actions of the parents wouldn't come into it.   I would be thinking only of the missing child.

[G-Unit]

AFAIAC the actions of the parents wouldn't come into it.   I would be thinking only of the missing child.

And having your own child tested would help the missing child how?

[Eleanor]

And having your own child tested would help the missing child how?

I don't understand the reluctance.  Who would it be hurting?

[jassi]

You have to consider that the  parents may come from a less sophisticated culture than ours and mighn't fully understand the intricacies of DNA testing and might fear that the child was going to be taken away whatever the result.

[Eleanor]

You have to consider that the  parents may come from a less sophisticated culture than ours and mighn't fully understand the intricacies of DNA testing and might fear that the child was going to be taken away whatever the result.

You mean that there wouldn't be anyone to explain?  The Police aren't savages.  And besides, if this situation ever arises then the DNA Test is going to be done anyway.  There is no other definitive proof.

[G-Unit]

I don't understand the reluctance.  Who would it be hurting?

Who would it help? The child is not the missing child, so it helps how?

[jassi]

You mean that there wouldn't be anyone to explain?  The Police aren't savages.  And besides, if this situation ever arises then the DNA Test is going to be done anyway. There is no other definitive proof.

I don't think you can say that categorically, it would depend upon the law of the country involved and the degree of cooperation by the authorities.

[Eleanor]

Who would it help? The child is not the missing child, so it helps how?

But no one would know that for certain, would they.  Do you think that whoever might have Madeleine is going around looking as though they have.  Do you think they might try to avoid a DNA Test?

This is so silly.  Anyone who has that child would do all of the things that are being suggested by people who would be reluctant to comply for reasons that I don't understand.

[Eleanor]

I don't think you can say that categorically, it would depend upon the law of the country involved and the degree of cooperation by the authorities.

Oh, I think I can.

[G-Unit]

But no one would know that for certain, would they.  Do you think that whoever might have Madeleine is going around looking as though they have.  Do you think they might try to avoid a DNA Test?

This is so silly.  Anyone who has that child would do all of the things that are being suggested by people who would be reluctant to comply for reasons that I don't understand.

I know, it's my child. Why should I have to prove it?

[Brietta]

A pair of careless parents mislaid their child. You didn't. Then you get a knock on the door saying your child looks like the missing child. You know it's yours. Why the goodness gracious should you have to prove it? The mouth swab is no big deal, it's the inference that you're a child snatcher that is insulting.

You said
"I would like to see the insults stopped, but what would be left? some people would not be able to say anything at all."

You seem unable to compute that calling the parents of a stolen child "careless" and their missing child "mislaid" is insulting in the extreme, as well as showing insensitivity bordering on the callous.

Let's look at your scenario from the other perspective and behind the knocked door are the abductors of a child - not necessarily Madeleine McCann whose recovery you give the appearance of disdaining - don't you think the criminals would pull every trick in the book to make sure the child was not identified.

[Benice]

And having your own child tested would help the missing child how?

If there was no DNA match - that would eliminate a potential line of investigation and the search could continue in other directions.   So no harm done.

If there was no DNA match - that would rule out any suspicion of your involvement.   So no harm done.

If there was a DNA match - then you would have some explaining to do.

The fact that you know you are not involved - doesn't prove to the police that you aren't.  You are just a random member of the public to them -  who has been reported as having a child who resembles a missing child.

And if your child does resemble the missing child in their opinion - then surely you would be only too keen to sort the matter out ASAP - for everyone's sake - especially the missing child.




   

[Brietta]

In other words everyone should subjugate themselves to the needs of a pair of parents who mislaid their child, and disregard the insulting implication that they are child-snatchers? Never mind if you're accused, just roll over and accept it? Really?

In other words ... just ignore criminality and let the crims get on with it for fear of upsetting their equilibrium ...

May sound sensible to you ... but I would question it.

[G-Unit]

You said
"I would like to see the insults stopped, but what would be left? some people would not be able to say anything at all."

You seem unable to compute that calling the parents of a stolen child "careless" and their missing child "mislaid" is insulting in the extreme, as well as showing insensitivity bordering on the callous.

Let's look at your scenario from the other perspective and behind the knocked door are the abductors of a child - not necessarily Madeleine McCann whose recovery you give the appearance of disdaining - don't you think the criminals would pull every trick in the book to make sure the child was not identified.

Were they careful then? Mislaid is quite kind, as it suggests a temporary state of affairs. I and others think they were careless in the extreme. What's insulting and callous about saying so?

I'm not interested in any other perspective but the one of an innocent family with their own child. Why should they have their lives disrupted when they have done nothing wrong at all?

[G-Unit]

If there was no DNA match - that would eliminate a potential line of investigation and the search could continue in other directions.   So no harm done.

If there was no DNA match - that would rule out any suspicion of your involvement.   So no harm done.

If there was a DNA match - then you would have some explaining to do.

The fact that you know you are not involved - doesn't prove to the police that you aren't.  You are just a random member of the public to them -  who has been reported as having a child who resembles a missing child.

And if your child does resemble the missing child in their opinion - then surely you would be only too keen to sort the matter out ASAP - for everyone's sake - especially the missing child.

I'm a random member of the public who pays their taxes and has no criminal past. You seem to think that because a child is missing anyone accused of having that child should let their child be DNA tested for the sake of the missing child? How does that help the missing child? I am willing to demonstrate that my child is my child by normal means. I see no need for DNA testing and I very much doubt the police would either.