SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits

[Robittybob1]

Which photos? The PJ site still had her original little girl photo online the last I looked.

ETA: Just went to check again... no photo, but an interesting statement:

> Madeleine McCann

À semelhança do que sucede com todos os casos de crianças desaparecidas, não obstante o arquivamento formal do inquérito relativo ao seu desaparecimento, e como sempre foi publicamente afirmado, a Polícia Judiciária continuou a estar atenta a toda e qualquer informação suscetível de permitir conhecer o paradeiro da menor Madeleine McCann, as circunstâncias em que ocorreu o seu desaparecimento e a identidade do(s) seu(s) autor(es).

Com esse objetivo, pelo Diretor Nacional da Polícia Judiciária, em março de 2011, foi atribuída a uma equipa de investigadores da Diretoria do Norte a missão de reanalisar todo o vasto conjunto de informação constante do inquérito, com o objetivo de identificar aquela cujo aprofundamento se revelasse útil e possível.

Esse trabalho de reanálise, que decorreu durante os últimos dois anos e meio, permitiu conhecer novos indícios que, impondo a continuação da investigação, preenchem os requisitos estabelecidos pelo artº 279º nº 1 do Código de Processo Penal para a reabertura do inquérito.

Feita proposta em conformidade ao Exmo. Procurador da República na comarca de Portimão, foi a mesma deferida.

24 de Outubro de 2013

http://www.policiajudiciaria.pt/PortalWeb/page/%7B6342215A-BA20-42A9-B6E4-C327199B0BDA%7D

Translated:

As is the case with all cases of missing children, despite the formal filing of the investigation of his disappearance, and as has always been publicly stated, the Judicial Police continued to be attentive to any sensitive information possible to know the whereabouts the minor Madeleine McCann, the circumstances in which his disappearance and identity (s) of their author (s) (s).

To this end, the National Judicial Police Officer in March 2011, was assigned to a team of researchers from the Northern Board's mission to re-examine the whole wide range of constant survey information in order to identify those whose penetration is reveal useful and possible.

This reanalysis work, which took place during the last two and a half years, helped identify new evidence that imposing further research, meet the requirements set by artº 279 paragraph 1 of the Criminal Procedure Code for the reopening of the investigation.

Proposal made pursuant to the Hon. Attorney in the district of Portimão, was granted the same.

[Robittybob1]

If anyone can show me any appeal in the portuguese language which shows the smithman efits and states the sighting location I will buy them a very large virtual Amereto.

Would this be because  ....?

[Robittybob1]

Thankyou ShiningInLuz for your research. I still don't see anything in portuguese which specifically appeals for a man who was walking down Rua Escola Primeira and possibly Travessa Das Escadhinas.
I give an example in a current case in York of a missing Ms Lawrence. Police released an appeal in the national language for people to identify a man and the important thing is as well as publishing the cctv they also gave the location (street names) of the sighting.

Have you got the spelling of those street names correct Rua Escola Primeira was not understood by Google Earth (GE).  Travessa da Escola Primária  is how it is spelt in the Smith statement.
Do you know the GPS coordinates of this crossing Please?

"Travessa Das Escadhinas" is more correctly spelt "Travessa Das Escadinhas" Praia da Luz is locatable on GE

[ferryman]

I would imagine (but don't know) that the reason the McCanns were sceptical about the Smiths evidence is that one of them told the police he was 60-80% certain it was Gerry!  I don't know about you, but if a witness was certain they saw me committing a heinous act and I knew it couldn't have been me then I might regard their evidence as somewhat inaccurate or unreliable.

You are generally sound but (I think!) wide of the mark on this occasion, Alfie.

Look at how much space Kate devoted to the Smith sighting in her book.

They didn't publicise the efit because they had no mandate to (quite apart from disputes they had with the contractor that produced the efit, which might have complicated issues further).

Still, the McCanns made sure the eift was with Scotland Yard who (themselves) chose the moment to release it.

[Robittybob1]

You are generally sound but (I think!) wide of the mark on this occasion, Alfie.

Look at how much space Kate devoted to the Smith sighting in her book.

They didn't publicise the efit because they had no mandate to (quite apart from disputes they had with the contractor that produced the efit, which might have complicated issues further).

Still, the McCanns made sure the eift was with Scotland Yard who (themselves) chose the moment to release it.

The book is a message to the Smithman and family.  Kate has an incredible focus of purpose. 

[mercury]

You are generally sound but (I think!) wide of the mark on this occasion, Alfie.

Look at how much space Kate devoted to the Smith sighting in her book.

They didn't publicise the efit because they had no mandate to (quite apart from disputes they had with the contractor that produced the efit, which might have complicated issues further).

Still, the McCanns made sure the eift was with Scotland Yard who (themselves) chose the moment to release it.

Only when forced to

[pegasus]

For an investigation to assume that the solution must involve someone openly carrying a visible person through populated streets is absurd IMO.

[Robittybob1]

For an investigation to assume that the solution must involve someone openly carrying a visible person through populated streets is absurd IMO.

So be it, Amen.  If that person is shown to be a caring person that is big plus in my book, if MM or his own daughter is taken to a medical center, (even if closed this is not his fault) and then onto where Christian Brothers were staying that is also positive.   I don't see signs of evasive behaviour which would be more in line with some one with murderous intent.  This is better than Smithman dodging and having sand on his hands.  It gives us hope of looking for a living MM.

[pegasus]

The smithman efits are of a man, who was carrying a girl who was wearing a top with long sleeves.
The missing girl however was wearing a top with extremely short sleeves.

[Robittybob1]

The smithman efits are of a man, who was carrying a girl who was wearing a top with long sleeves.
The missing girl however was wearing a top with extremely short sleeves.

To change a top takes a matter of minutes, but to me that too is "caring" to stop the infant getting any colder.  Who ever did that is not a cold hearted killer. 

[G-Unit]

You are generally sound but (I think!) wide of the mark on this occasion, Alfie.

Look at how much space Kate devoted to the Smith sighting in her book.

They didn't publicise the efit because they had no mandate to (quite apart from disputes they had with the contractor that produced the efit, which might have complicated issues further).

Still, the McCanns made sure the eift was with Scotland Yard who (themselves) chose the moment to release it.

One of the detectives claimed he gave the report and efits to the Met;

Exton confirmed last week that the fund had silenced his investigators for years after they handed over their controversial findings. He said: “A letter came from their lawyers binding us to the confidentiality of the report.”

He claimed the legal threat had prevented him from handing over the report to Scotland Yard’s fresh investigation, until detectives had obtained written permission from the fund. A source close to the fund said the report was considered “hypercritical of the people involved” and “would have been completely distracting” if it became public.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic21297.html

Nowhere do the McCanns or their spokespersons specifically say it was them who gave the Met the report and efits.

[Brietta]

One of the detectives claimed he gave the report and efits to the Met;

Exton confirmed last week that the fund had silenced his investigators for years after they handed over their controversial findings. He said: “A letter came from their lawyers binding us to the confidentiality of the report.”

He claimed the legal threat had prevented him from handing over the report to Scotland Yard’s fresh investigation, until detectives had obtained written permission from the fund. A source close to the fund said the report was considered “hypercritical of the people involved” and “would have been completely distracting” if it became public.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic21297.html

Nowhere do the McCanns or their spokespersons specifically say it was them who gave the Met the report and efits.

Snip
The Sunday Times has agreed to pay Kate and Gerry McCann £55,000 in libel damages (all of which they will donate to two charities - Missing People and the Joe Humphries Memorial Trust).

Mr and Mrs McCann's complaint related to an article by the Sunday Times' "Insight" team published on the front page of the newspaper in October 2013.

The article alleged that Mr and Mrs McCann and Madeleine's Fund had kept secret from the investigating authorities crucial evidence (primarily consisting of "e-fits" obtained by private investigators) relating to their daughter's abduction.

The Sunday Times' allegations were completely false. As the newspaper now accepts, there is no question of the McCanns having sought to suppress any evidence; indeed all of the material collated by the private investigators had been provided to the relevant Portuguese and Leicestershire police four years earlier.

The private investigators' report (including the e-fits) was also provided to the Metropolitan Police in 2011 shortly after the Met commenced its review into Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.carter-ruck.com/images/uploads/documents/McCann-Press_Release-03102014.PDF



Seems clear enough to me.

Scotland Yard would no doubt have come across the information (including the efits made four years previously) given to Leics and Portuguese police in those files.
The full report commissioned by the McCanns and the Fund was handed to Scotland Yard in 2011 when they began collating evidence which enabled Madeleine's case to be reopened in 2013

[G-Unit]

Snip
The Sunday Times has agreed to pay Kate and Gerry McCann £55,000 in libel damages (all of which they will donate to two charities - Missing People and the Joe Humphries Memorial Trust).

Mr and Mrs McCann's complaint related to an article by the Sunday Times' "Insight" team published on the front page of the newspaper in October 2013.

The article alleged that Mr and Mrs McCann and Madeleine's Fund had kept secret from the investigating authorities crucial evidence (primarily consisting of "e-fits" obtained by private investigators) relating to their daughter's abduction.

The Sunday Times' allegations were completely false. As the newspaper now accepts, there is no question of the McCanns having sought to suppress any evidence; indeed all of the material collated by the private investigators had been provided to the relevant Portuguese and Leicestershire police four years earlier.

The private investigators' report (including the e-fits) was also provided to the Metropolitan Police in 2011 shortly after the Met commenced its review into Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.carter-ruck.com/images/uploads/documents/McCann-Press_Release-03102014.PDF



Seems clear enough to me.

Scotland Yard would no doubt have come across the information (including the efits made four years previously) given to Leics and Portuguese police in those files.
The full report commissioned by the McCanns and the Fund was handed to Scotland Yard in 2011 when they began collating evidence which enabled Madeleine's case to be reopened in 2013

They went after The Sunday Times but never explained why they hung onto the information for a year before giving it to the police. They didn't refute what Exton said, either, The report was 'handed to SY', but they don't actually say who's hands were involved.

[Angelo222]

They went after The Sunday Times but never explained why they hung onto the information for a year before giving it to the police. They didn't refute what Exton said, either, The report was 'handed to SY', but they don't actually say who's hands were involved.

Those e-fits might never have seen the light of day had the Spanish police with SY in tow not raided the Barcelona offices of Metodo 3 and removed several boxes of files relating to their involvement in the Maddie case.
 
Metodo later revealed that they were prevented from releasing information about the case including a report which was highly critical of the parents.  Oh my, gives a whole new meaning to no stone unturned!!



Scotland Yard officers and Spanish National Police carry off box files from Metodo 3 office in Barcelona.

[Angelo222]

Snip
The Sunday Times has agreed to pay Kate and Gerry McCann £55,000 in libel damages (all of which they will donate to two charities - Missing People and the Joe Humphries Memorial Trust).

Mr and Mrs McCann's complaint related to an article by the Sunday Times' "Insight" team published on the front page of the newspaper in October 2013.

The article alleged that Mr and Mrs McCann and Madeleine's Fund had kept secret from the investigating authorities crucial evidence (primarily consisting of "e-fits" obtained by private investigators) relating to their daughter's abduction.

The Sunday Times' allegations were completely false. As the newspaper now accepts, there is no question of the McCanns having sought to suppress any evidence; indeed all of the material collated by the private investigators had been provided to the relevant Portuguese and Leicestershire police four years earlier.

The private investigators' report (including the e-fits) was also provided to the Metropolitan Police in 2011 shortly after the Met commenced its review into Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.carter-ruck.com/images/uploads/documents/McCann-Press_Release-03102014.PDF



Seems clear enough to me.

Scotland Yard would no doubt have come across the information (including the efits made four years previously) given to Leics and Portuguese police in those files.
The full report commissioned by the McCanns and the Fund was handed to Scotland Yard in 2011 when they began collating evidence which enabled Madeleine's case to be reopened in 2013

The Sunday Times over-egged the allegation and in doing so let the McC's off the hook.  The e-fits were withheld for years after they were created and what's more nobody has ever explained why?

Martin Smith was so convinced he saw Gerry McCann that night that he phoned his local Guarda office in Drogheda and reported it. 

The McCanns sponsor Brian Kennedy was so convinced by the sighting he went to see the Smiths but they refused to cooperate with him.

Later, McCann detectives Oakley International, namely, conman Kevin Halligen, persuaded the Smiths to create e-fits but they are never used and filed away.

Even later still, the McCanns Spanish detectives Metodo 3 get access to the e-fits but are prevented from releasing them.

It was only when Scotland Yard got their hands on them that DCI Redwood had his eureka moment and released them live on BBC Crimewatch.