did the mcanns get special treatment by some because they are doctors

[mercury]

The children weren't "home alone", that is what the area of negligence refers to.

I suppose they had each other then, apart from that, yes, they were home alone

[Benice]

Abduction never entered my mind either, but I didn't leave my 3 under 5's home alone nevertheless. It really isn't right to make excuses for them, misty.

You sound as if you were the perfect parent G-Unit.   Did you never make a mistake?  I made loads.  Not because I was negligent - but because I am human - and most of the time a very tired human due to lack of sleep.

Hundreds of children die every year because their loving parents made a human error.   I don't think of them as negligent - even if in theory they were.    I have the utmost sympathy for them and am just grateful that none of the mistakes I made resulted in tragedy.   

[carlymichelle]

I suppose they had each other then, apart from that, yes, they were home alone

i dont understadnd why people think it is ok to leave children home alone   they  dont takke into consideration maddies eotional well being  here    its always gerry and kate

[mercury]

i dont understadnd why people think it is ok to leave children home alone   they  dont takke into consideration maddies eotional well being  here    its always gerry and kate

No sane parent who doesn't want to take any unnecessary risks leaves babies alone, older chldren for short times yes, but not 2 and 3 year olds, there is no excuse...I personally couldn't sit at a restaraunt enjoying myself not knowing if they were safe/supervised

My last post on the subject

[Benice]

i dont understadnd why people think it is ok to leave children home alone   they  dont takke into consideration maddies eotional well being  here    its always gerry and kate

The thousands of parents on holiday who have gone to dinner leaving their children asleep alone in their apartments would disagree with you.  Especially those who are still doing it.

Their decision to do that has nothing to do with the McCanns.  In fact the McCanns were not even born when that practice began.

I'm still waiting for just one sceptic to acknowledge the existence of those thousands of parents - instead of behaving as if the McCanns were the only people on the planet to leave their children fast asleep in bed and sit less than a minute away from them - with regular checks taking place.




 

[misty]

I suppose they had each other then, apart from that, yes, they were home alone

Both the Portuguese & UK legal system confirmed the parents were not guilty of neglect/abandonment. Can you not accept the legal position & move on from it?

[pegasus]

The thousands of parents on holiday who have gone to dinner leaving their children asleep alone in their apartments would disagree with you.  Especially those who are still doing it.

Their decision to do that has nothing to do with the McCanns.  In fact the McCanns were not even born when that practice began.

I'm still waiting for just one sceptic to acknowledge the existence of those thousands of parents - instead of behaving as if the McCanns were the only people on the planet to leave their children fast asleep in bed and sit less than a minute away from them - with regular checks taking place.

What if there's a burglary?

[mercury]

Both the Portuguese & UK legal system confirmed the parents were not guilty of neglect/abandonment. Can you not accept the legal position & move on from it?

I personally have never said they were guilty of neglect or abandonment...in fact I posted years ago that I was bored with the discussion and that people should move on....as there was no point going over and over the same thing...though I still post on it sometimes if people say it was Ok ...which it was most certainly not..for a variety of reasons....the Mccanns still say in interviews**** it was...like do they like rubbing people up the wrong way or what? iVe no idea what went on or goes on in their minds and rather wouldn't know either tbh

****

and what was all the talk from the pair of them about feeling gulty that they weren't there "at the moment" (and so emphasised)  MM was taken.....that doesn't quite cut it when compared to people sayng they regret leaving their kids alone..I never did quite get that emphasis

Example: at approx 7.40 minutes here

[misty]

What if there's a burglary?

Life is full of "what ifs", Pegasus.
What if the parents had been asleep in their bedroom, comatose after too much wine, and the place was burgled/ Madeleine went missing? Would the scene the following morning have been any different to the one discovered at 10pm?

[Benice]

What if there's a burglary?

Ask the thousands of parents who have decided that it's OK to sign up for the Listening Service, or who use Baby alarms when they go to dinner.  Most parents going on holiday don't draw up  a list of tragedies which could befall them.   Even the thought of the plane crashing doesn't deter them let alone a burglary. 

No-one can guard against everything that it is possible could go wrong.  That's simply not how human beings think or operate.    For anyone to expect the McCanns to be any different is a mystery to me.

[mercury]

Ask the thousands of parents who have decided that it's OK to sign up for the Listening Service, or who use Baby alarms when they go to dinner.  Most parents going on holiday don't draw up  a list of tragedies which could befall them.   Even the thought of the plane crashing doesn't deter them let alone a burglary. 

No-one can guard against everything that it is possible could go wrong.  That's simply not how human beings think or operate.    For anyone to expect the McCanns to be any different is a mystery to me.

Babies normally sleep in their cot or sit in their cot and cry, they're simple, they can't get up and move around...leaving toddlers to their own devices is negligent behaviour even if it isn't "neglect"

[pegasus]

Life is full of "what ifs", Pegasus.
What if the parents had been asleep in their bedroom, comatose after too much wine, and the place was burgled/ Madeleine went missing? Would the scene the following morning have been any different to the one discovered at 10pm?

If there had been an attempted burglary via the child bedroom window while the parents were asleep in the other bedroom, the scared child would have simply run to that other bedroom and woken the parents, and all would have been fine.

[G-Unit]

On and on it goes. A complete refusal to accept that the Mccanns contributed to whatever happened to Madeleine. If they did what they have said they did they behaved badly by leaving their children alone in an unlocked apartment night after night.

None of their friends left their apartments unlocked. None of the other holiday makers left their children alone in their apartments. Being 'a minute' away means nothing if you can't see or hear what's happening, you may as well be a mile away.

Leaving children in a hotel room or in a secure holiday place with regular listening checks is another thing altogether - especially as the children are usually locked in the rooms. If there are thousands of other Brits doing exactly the same as the Mccanns did we should be ashamed. We are already seen as the worst parents in Europe, and have been for years.

[misty]

Now you've moved the goalposts. You said burglary, not attempted burglary.
There was no evidence an intruder had entered the McCann apartment via the window, yet the window was open & the shutters up. How did the burglar get in?
There was no evidence Madeleine had fled from her bedroom, stopping to look in her parents' bedroom. There was no evidence she had fled from the apartment.

How would that have looked the following morning if the parents had slept through whatever occurred?

[pegasus]

Now you've moved the goalposts. You said burglary, not attempted burglary.
There was no evidence an intruder had entered the McCann apartment via the window, yet the window was open & the shutters up. How did the burglar get in?
There was no evidence Madeleine had fled from her bedroom, stopping to look in her parents' bedroom. There was no evidence she had fled from the apartment.

How would that have looked the following morning if the parents had slept through whatever occurred?

Every good Misty you are right, because on seeing a child running out the room, obviously a burglar would not climb in, so thanks, I'll rephrase it...
What if there was an attempted burglary while the parents were eating at a restuarant?