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Offline jassi

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2015, 11:31:04 AM »
It's a pretty straightforward matter.

Amaral has accused the McCanns of causing the death of their daughter, covering up the (alleged!) "fact" of her death and launching a fraudulent "appeal" in their (dead) daughter's name.

None of that is true.

By default he is therefore guilty of libel.

So why is he wasting the time of appeal-court judges?

He has appealed. Just learn to live with it.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2015, 11:40:45 AM »
It's a pretty straightforward matter.

Amaral has accused the McCanns of causing the death of their daughter, covering up the (alleged!) "fact" of her death and launching a fraudulent "appeal" in their (dead) daughter's name.

None of that is true.

By default he is therefore guilty of libel.

So why is he wasting the time of appeal-court judges?

If it were as straightforward as it is in 'ferryman world' the judge wouldn't have needed to bring Amaral's occupation into the judgement. The McCanns were awarded damages because of who he was, not because of what he said.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2015, 11:42:16 AM »
Doing his job is one thing,  writing a book saying the McCann's hid Madeleine's body and staged an abduction is another.

I know you don't care less about their innocence,  it shows in more or less every post you make.   The fact is they have been cleared by SY and the Portuguese police of having anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance, whether you like it or not.

Given that the nature of the crime, assuming for a moment there ever was one, is unknown, how on earth can they be cleared?  Cleared of what exactly??
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Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2015, 11:55:38 AM »
If it were as straightforward as it is in 'ferryman world' the judge wouldn't have needed to bring Amaral's occupation into the judgement. The McCanns were awarded damages because of who he was, not because of what he said.

You clearly don't understand the basic precepts of libel

Never mind ....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2015, 12:01:03 PM »
Given that the nature of the crime, assuming for a moment there ever was one, is unknown, how on earth can they be cleared?  Cleared of what exactly??

cleared of any criminal involvement in maddie's disappearance

ferryman

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Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2015, 12:11:50 PM »
If it were as straightforward as it is in 'ferryman world' the judge wouldn't have needed to bring Amaral's occupation into the judgement. The McCanns were awarded damages because of who he was, not because of what he said.

Without what he said (or if he had confined what he said to the process) there would be no action ....

stephen25000

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Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2015, 12:13:13 PM »
Without what he said (or if he had confined what he said to the process) there would be no action ....

Without the mccanns and what they failed to do, there would be no case.

Offline carlymichelle

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2015, 12:14:42 PM »
Without what he said (or if he had confined what he said to the process) there would be no action ....

police have a  right to their opinion beinga police officer isnt  fairy land like you  supporters live in  ga  has everyight to his opinion  he  didnt force gerry and kate to abandon their children did he? he is not responisble for maddie vanishing the mcanns are  by the very  least no childcare  to make   someone els e a scapegoat by their stupidity is  horrible imo and gullible people like you fell for it

Offline carlymichelle

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2015, 12:16:17 PM »
Without the mccanns and what they failed to do, there would be no case.
exactly and im sick of mcann supporters blaming everybody else but gerry and kate

Offline Benice

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2015, 12:25:15 PM »
exactly and im sick of mcann supporters blaming everybody else but gerry and kate

You could always take you own advice and not read the posts.  As you say - 'no-one is forced to read anything'.

It would also make a pleasant change if you could make a post that does not include abuse of people who disagree with you.   Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion on this forum  - not just the sceptics.
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Offline John

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2015, 12:28:00 PM »
You clearly don't understand the basic precepts of libel

Never mind ....

For Gonçalo Amaral to have committed libel in his book it would have to be proven that he made a false statement that harms the reputation of the McCanns, the emphasis being on false!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Lace

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2015, 12:28:40 PM »
Given that the nature of the crime, assuming for a moment there ever was one, is unknown, how on earth can they be cleared?  Cleared of what exactly??

Cleared of the doubt that Amaral put on them.   

Offline Lace

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2015, 12:31:33 PM »
exactly and im sick of mcann supporters blaming everybody else but gerry and kate

This is about Madeleine,  Amaral is saying that Madeleine is dead,  he doesn't know if she is dead or not and should not have made it sound as if she were.

It is not the McCann's fault he wrote a book,  they didn't make him write it,  he wrote it to earn money for himself and wrote it whilst he was still employed with the Police Force which is against the law in Portugal.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2015, 12:32:03 PM »
For Gonçalo Amaral to have committed libel in his book it would have to be proven that he made a false statement that harms the reputation of the McCanns, the emphasis being on false!

that certainly isn't true in the uk and no one really seems to understand libel law in Portugal. Certainly in the trial the mccanns made no attempt to prove amaral wrong yet they won the case

Offline Lace

Re: McCann fury as new libel cop case begins.
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2015, 12:34:16 PM »
Without the mccanns and what they failed to do, there would be no case.

Are we back to the McCann's leaving the children again Stephen?   You use every thread to bring that up.

The fact is it happens and Madeleine is missing,  Amaral wrote a book saying she was dead,  there was no proof she was dead he shouldn't have said it.