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stephen25000

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Indeed.
 ... and if Mr Amaral had spent a little more of his time seeking him rather than formulating his theories and which chapter of the book  would fit them best it is perfectly possible Scotland Yard and the Policia Judicairia would not have had to spend the past four and a half years playing catch up on his omissions.

I would say that now that all the donkey work has been accomplished it has been deemed appropriate that four dedicated detectives who can call in back-up if required will be able to cope with their ongoing enquiries.

That is the magic word ... ongoing ... isn't it great that continues to be done, hopefully with a positive conclusion.


You need reminding that the initial work in Portugal which did involve UK police advice, resulted in the situation that no evidence of abduction was found.

How conveniently you and others overlook that.

For without abduction, there is only one place to go.

Offline slartibartfast

Part if the investigative process is doing just that ... eliminating suspects and people of interest ... the fact they had to accomplish that four years after Madeleine disappeared evidences that it hadn't already been done.

More likely that the original investigation ignored the loons and the current investigation has looked at them again and wrote "eliminated" on the file.
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Offline Benice


You need reminding that the initial work in Portugal which did involve UK police advice, resulted in the situation that no evidence of abduction was found.

How conveniently you and others overlook that.

For without abduction, there is only one place to go.


As it is a fact that  the police forces of two countries have ruled the McCanns and their friends out of the investigation -  then where is this... ''only one place to go'? 

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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Offline Mr Gray


As it is a fact that  the police forces of two countries have ruled the McCanns and their friends out of the investigation -  then where is this... ''only one place to go'?

Maddie deserved a proper investigation....something the pj did not give her...As expected SY still have some lines of enquiry to investigate...they have again made it clear the parents are not involved..this is what has upset the sceptics

Alfred R Jones

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More likely that the original investigation ignored the loons and the current investigation has looked at them again and wrote "eliminated" on the file.
why would you ignore loons? 

Alfred R Jones

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The use of the word 'disappearance' in SY's official statement is interesting. According to supporters Redwood had decided as long ago as 2012 that Madeleine ' had been abducted by a stranger' so why, even if they still don't know who that stranger was, wasn't the word abducted used today ?
The use of the word "disappearance" gives you a tiny straw of comfort to cling to, nothing more.  The same word is used in all police statements about Ben Needham, but I don't suppose you believe it's code for "the grandparents dunnit" do you?

stephen25000

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As it is a fact that  the police forces of two countries have ruled the McCanns and their friends out of the investigation -  then where is this... ''only one place to go'?

Where is the proof of abduction ?

Offline Mr Gray

Where is the proof of abduction ?

On the balance of probabilities...it is proved

stephen25000

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On the balance of probabilities...it is proved

In your dreams.

Offline Mr Gray

In your dreams.

you talk of proof
do you understand there are three levels of proof...civil...criminal or absolute
you don't understand do you

stephen25000

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Re: Scotland Yard announce that Maddie investigation team cut to four officers.
« Reply #100 on: October 29, 2015, 09:22:09 AM »
you talk of proof
do you understand there are three levels of proof...civil...criminal or absolute
you don't understand do you

Don't be foolish.

Now once and for all, tell me what evidence is there of abduction.

This time provide cites.

Offline Benice

Re: Scotland Yard announce that Maddie investigation team cut to four officers.
« Reply #101 on: October 29, 2015, 09:22:18 AM »


I assume you also think the claims made by the parents of all those UK children sexually assaulted in their beds haven't been investigated either - as there has been no statement from SY to say so.

In fact according to your logic this investigation has never included an interview in the UK -with anyone connected to the case  - and you know that apparently -  because SY have not made statements confirming they have.

What do you think 'We shall not be giving a running commentary' means?

« Last Edit: October 29, 2015, 11:05:44 AM by Eleanor »
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

Re: Scotland Yard announce that Maddie investigation team cut to four officers.
« Reply #102 on: October 29, 2015, 09:28:47 AM »
Neither Operation Grange or, more interestingly, the media have referred to 'an abduction' for ages. Only the McCanns and their supporters are still insisting on this explanation for Madeleine's disappearance. I have highlighted words which may be significant;

Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said: "The Met investigation has been painstaking and thorough and has for the first time brought together in one place what was disparate information across the world.

"This work has enabled us to better understand events in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine McCann went missing and ensure every possible measure is being taken to find out what happened to her.

McCann statement;

"We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in Praia da Luz leading up to Madeleine's abduction in 2007.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/madeleine-mccann-10million-police-investigation-6722352

The police seem to be emphasising the night itself. The parents statement is less specific. The police say 'went missing' The parents say 'abduction'. The police say 'what happened to her', no mention of finding her. It may be that the police worded their statement carelessly, but I doubt it.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Scotland Yard announce that Maddie investigation team cut to four officers.
« Reply #103 on: October 29, 2015, 09:50:32 AM »


Hardly surprising that there is little evidence available from apartment 5A when one considers the botched forensic examination which occurred there resulting in the destruction of forensic evidence which may have included traces left by an intruder.

It should also be remembered that most cases of abduction do not involve any evidence being left at the crime scene.

Scotland Yard were not responsible for leaking the names of persons interviewed in Portugal to internet bloggers and the press ... that was a leak from within the Portuguese investigation, which has now apparently been plugged.

« Last Edit: October 29, 2015, 11:07:16 AM by Eleanor »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Scotland Yard announce that Maddie investigation team cut to four officers.
« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2015, 09:53:49 AM »
Hardly surprising that there is little evidence available from apartment 5A when one considers the botched forensic examination which occurred there resulting in the destruction of forensic evidence which may have included traces left by an intruder.

It should also be remembered that most cases of abduction do not involve any evidence being left at the crime scene.

Scotland Yard were not responsible for leaking the names of persons interviewed in Portugal to internet bloggers and the press ... that was a leak from within the Portuguese investigation, which has now apparently been plugged.

Been through this all before.

Has it ever crossed your mind there is no evidence of abduction, because there was no abduction ?