Gerry and Kate McCann reveal the reasons why they miss Maddie.

[slartibartfast]

from what you are saying the mccanns have little support in Portugal...I don't think its possible after all this time to change things

In which country is support more important in the search for Madeleine, UK or PT?

[Mr Gray]

True.

Since the thread title is not restricted to the UK public - irrelevant.

Since the disappearance occurred in Portugal - oh dear.

Since I have just been reading the posts about "the Algarve is cheesed off with Maddie stories", news dated May 2009 highlighting the problem with a lack of local support - oh dear.

Here's a simple thought.  A large part of the solution to what happened to Madeleine lies in the Algarve, particularly in Luz.  Getting such people on board is relevant.

why do you think so many Portuguese think the mccanns are up to their necks in it when you don't think they are

[G-Unit]

why do you think so many Portuguese think the mccanns are up to their necks in it when you don't think they are

Not just Portuguese people, there is a large expat community in the Algarve also.

[Mr Gray]

Not just Portuguese people, there is a large expat community in the Algarve also.

im well aware of that but it doesnt answer the question

[slartibartfast]

why do you think so many Portuguese think the mccanns are up to their necks in it when you don't think they are

I don't think the locals are specifically for or against, they just object to the denigrating of their town and want things to return to normal.

[Mr Gray]

I don't think the locals are specifically for or against, they just object to the denigrating of their town and want things to return to normal.

not according  to Luz who lives there

[Alfred R Jones]

True.

Since the thread title is not restricted to the UK public - irrelevant.

Since the disappearance occurred in Portugal - oh dear.

Since I have just been reading the posts about "the Algarve is cheesed off with Maddie stories", news dated May 2009 highlighting the problem with a lack of local support - oh dear.

Here's a simple thought.  A large part of the solution to what happened to Madeleine lies in the Algarve, particularly in Luz.  Getting such people on board is relevant.

A good example of how Amaral's determined propaganda campaign against the McCanns has harmed the search for Madeleine, albeit anecdotal.

[Benice]

True.

Since the thread title is not restricted to the UK public - irrelevant.

Since the disappearance occurred in Portugal - oh dear.

Since I have just been reading the posts about "the Algarve is cheesed off with Maddie stories", news dated May 2009 highlighting the problem with a lack of local support - oh dear.

Here's a simple thought.  A large part of the solution to what happened to Madeleine lies in the Algarve, particularly in Luz.  Getting such people on board is relevant.

May I ask your opinion on Mrs Murat's decision to arrange for locals to leave any info anonymously because they may be scared to contact the PJ directly themselves?  Why would they be so scared of the PJ IYO? 




 

[ShiningInLuz]

In which country is support more important in the search for Madeleine, UK or PT?

It is important in both, plus the visiting countries of Germany, Holland, Ireland and others.

[ShiningInLuz]

why do you think so many Portuguese think the mccanns are up to their necks in it when you don't think they are

I KNOW from the way things are reported here that most media reports imply the McCanns are culpable.  Even though the law says they are not.

I KNOW from personal experience that the view in Luz is simple.  Getting anyone to talk about it is like pulling teeth.  No one wants to talk about it 'cos it is 'obvious' the McCanns dun it.  Can you get them to explain why it is 'obvious'.  Nope.  It's obvious, innit?

The reason I think the McCanns are not up to their necks is that it took me about 6 months to work out how to dispose of or conceal a body.  It can be done.

However, the McCanns did not have 6 months.

[stephen25000]

A good example of how Amaral's determined propaganda campaign against the McCanns has harmed the search for Madeleine, albeit anecdotal.

Absolute rollocks.

People did not need a book to decide whether they thought the mccanns were telling the truth or not.

Determined propaganda machine ? 

A great deal of the antipathy towards the mccanns is a results of the mccanns own behaviour and arrogance, and of course, thenm wanting to be the centre of attention.

[ShiningInLuz]

May I ask your opinion on Mrs Murat's decision to arrange for locals to leave any info anonymously because they may be scared to contact the PJ directly themselves?  Why would they be so scared of the PJ IYO?   

I am on unsure footing here, Benice, so please take this as an opinion.

Would I want to be summoned to Faro, for a formal interview, then the answer is no, I would not.

Most of the statements seem to have been closer to home, possibly Luz, possibly Lagos, better, but still a bit formal.

I have spoken to the GNR informally re another potential crime and they were fairly relaxed and 'off-the-record'.

Madeleine was a bit different.  That was formal.  It was picked over and criticised in minute detail.

Ex-pats who just want to live a quiet life in the sun?  I judge Mrs Murat's idea to be about 100% spot on.  I. E. there would have been people with information who did not want to go through the formal investigation but who had little bits and pieces to chip in.

I am far from sure that Mrs Murat's effort gathered anything of importance.  Perhaps I need to offer a cup of tea to the good lady to find out.

[Benice]

I KNOW from the way things are reported here that most media reports imply the McCanns are culpable.  Even though the law says they are not.

I KNOW from personal experience that the view in Luz is simple.  Getting anyone to talk about it is like pulling teeth. No one wants to talk about it 'cos it is 'obvious' the McCanns dun it.  Can you get them to explain why it is 'obvious'.  Nope.  It's obvious, innit?

The reason I think the McCanns are not up to their necks is that it took me about 6 months to work out how to dispose of or conceal a body.  It can be done.

However, the McCanns did not have 6 months.

I don't think that was the case in the first days/weeks after the 3rd, and so doesn't explain why Mrs. Murat set up a 'place' for locals who were scared to contact the PJ themselves to leave any info they may have.    IMO it was because they were scared of being implicated in the crime themselves by the PJ - and so were taking no chances.    I'm not thinking here of the ex pats, but the indigenous locals. 

Was it a case of a the PJ's 'reputation' going before them?   If there was another reason I would be interested to hear it.

I also think it is natural for the Portuguese people to hope that it was not 'one of their own' who committed this crime - and so they would be far more likely to be influenced by the smear campaign conducted in the PJ media against the 'McCanns and their friends.    Again - that is just human nature IMO.



Oops - Sorry SiL - I posted the above before I read your post in reply to mine.

[G-Unit]

I KNOW from the way things are reported here that most media reports imply the McCanns are culpable.  Even though the law says they are not.

I KNOW from personal experience that the view in Luz is simple.  Getting anyone to talk about it is like pulling teeth.  No one wants to talk about it 'cos it is 'obvious' the McCanns dun it.  Can you get them to explain why it is 'obvious'.  Nope.  It's obvious, innit?

The reason I think the McCanns are not up to their necks is that it took me about 6 months to work out how to dispose of or conceal a body.  It can be done.

However, the McCanns did not have 6 months.

I would think there were at least a couple of ways to dispose of a body in that area. A weighted body taken far enough out to sea wouldn't be seen again. A body placed in a bin would be gone the following day as I understand it.

[Mr Gray]

I would think there were at least a couple of ways to dispose of a body in that area. A weighted body taken far enough out to sea wouldn't be seen again. A body placed in a bin would be gone the following day as I understand it.

the idea that the mccans would put maddie's body in a bin is about as ridiculous as you can get....but you have to come up with ridiculous ideas to try and make your theories work