My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock

[adam]

Bamber either forced Sheila at gun point, persuaded Sheila, or carried her.

The first two may have to be ruled out, dependant on where June's blood was. As Sheila's feet were blood free.

[david1819]

It doesn't. And you haven't said how Sheila ended up in the main bedroom.

Its simple, she either walked into the room herself then seeing the police from outside the main bedroom window realised suicide was the best option. Or Jeremy chased her into that location pinned her to the floor then forced the barrel of the rifle on her neck then shot her.

Why overcomplicate things with over-imaginative and fanciful theories? That is Mikes Speciality

[adam]

Its simple, she either walked into the room herself then seeing the police from outside the main bedroom window realised suicide was the best option. Or Jeremy chased her into that location pinned her to the floor then forced the barrel of the rifle on her neck then shot her.

Why overcomplicate things with over-imaginative and fanciful theories? That is Mikes Speciality

Surely you're not saying Bamber could be innocent ? Oh yes I await you're third modified scenario of how Sheila did it. The last one had Neville phoning Bamber after Sheila shot the twins.

Why was none of June's blood on Sheila's hands and feet ? There was no possibility of Sheila waking. She was asleep, under sedation with her bedroom door closed. The rifle with a silencer on is errr silent ?

[rotti]

Surely you're not saying Bamber could be innocent ? Oh yes I await you're third modified scenario of how Sheila did it.

Why was none of June's blood on Sheila's hands and feet ? There was no possibility of Sheila waking. She was asleep, under sedation with her bedroom door closed. The rifle with a silencer on is errr silent ?

nicely put adam

[david1819]

Surely you're not saying Bamber could be innocent ? Oh yes I await you're third modified scenario of how Sheila did it.

Why was none of June's blood on Sheila's hands and feet ? There was no possibility of Sheila waking. She was asleep, under sedation with her bedroom door closed. The rifle with a silencer on is errr silent ?

Yes I am saying Bamber could be innocent that's my opinion.  I hope he is not innocent because that would be rather tragic don't you think?

In a senario of Shelia killing herself its always possible she done so at a later time once all the blood of the other deceased had dried into the carpet.

[adam]

nicely put adam

Thank you. To be fair, David did create a scenario. Which I'm sure he will happily post for you. Neville waking after hearing shots, then seeing Sheila standing over the twins with the rifle. Neville then going downstairs to phone Bamber.

All other supporters refuse point blank or just don't answer. I created a point by point scenario of how Bamber did it. Which I will happily post on here.

[rotti]

Thank you. To be fair, David did create a scenario. Which I'm sure he will happily post for you. Neville waking after hearing shots, then seeing Sheila standing over the twins with the rifle. Neville then going downstairs to phone Bamber.

All other supporters refuse point blank or just don't answer. I created a point by point scenario of how Bamber did it. Which I will happily post on here.

please do adam i would love to read it.if we take bits of every ones theories .we might get a census on how he committed the crime.or get close to it

[rotti]

one thing we do know was that bamber was a criminal before the murders.also if he did stage a scene that morning .and i think he did.it would be nothing new to him he previously staged one at the caravan park office.when he burgled it. &%+((£

[adam]

Cycle to WHF: 

Evidence - Bike recently made available. Easy journey. Unseen. 


Get into WHF

Evidence - Bathroom window loose or open. Quiet entrance. 


Pick up rifle: 

Evidence ' Fully loaded rifle available as stated by Jeremy. 


Enter main bedroom: 

Evidence - Two adults in this room who must be killed first as potential to provide most resistance. 


Shoot an in bed June and Neville: 

Evidence - Nine of the 11 shots were from inches away by or in the bed. 


Go to reload or chase Neville: 

Evidence - Spare bullets found in kitchen. 


Kitchen fight: 

Evidence - Neville was brutally beaten there.  


Shoot and kill a knocked out Neville: 

Evidence - Four kitchen head shots into Neville. 


Return upstairs: 

Evidence - All other shots upstairs. 


Either wake and shoot or shoot an already awake Sheila:

Evidence - Sheila found shot in the corner of main bedroom. 


Shoot June once: 

Evidence - June had moved a few feet. Third head shot required. 


Reload, shoot the sleeping twins: 

Evidence - Twins shot 8 times in bed. Amount of bullets used shows two reloads carried out on the night. 


Stage the scene: 

Evidence - Gun and bible by Sheila. Silencer put in a box. 


Exit out of kitchen window: 

Evidence - Twenty sources say it can be banged shut from outside. 


Cycle home: 

Evidence - Bike found at Jeremy's cottage. 
 

[adam]

Copied from another forum. So bits that were bold and underlined, are not on here.

I should re do as it now seems Sheila was shot in bed and carried to the main bedroom.

[rotti]

 i have a new theory for mike tesko.but iam not a member of the blue site so someone on here might forward it to him.and here it is.neville was having affair with Babara wilson and had told her he had changed his will to leave her everything he owned .but Babara wanted the money only and not neville.so she waited outside the farm until neville had finished the killings and were ready to run away together .but Babara had other plans.she took the rifle and killed neville .so she could have it all.why not its about as believable as some of the theories he has come out with

[rotti]

Cycle to WHF:

Evidence - Bike recently made available. Easy journey. Unseen.


Get into WHF

Evidence - Bathroom window loose or open. Quiet entrance.


Pick up rifle:

Evidence ' Fully loaded rifle available as stated by Jeremy.


Enter main bedroom:

Evidence - Two adults in this room who must be killed first as potential to provide most resistance.


Shoot an in bed June and Neville:

Evidence - Nine of the 11 shots were from inches away by or in the bed.


Go to reload or chase Neville:

Evidence - Spare bullets found in kitchen.


Kitchen fight:

Evidence - Neville was brutally beaten there. 


Shoot and kill a knocked out Neville:

Evidence - Four kitchen head shots into Neville.


Return upstairs:

Evidence - All other shots upstairs.


Either wake and shoot or shoot an already awake Sheila:

Evidence - Sheila found shot in the corner of main bedroom.


Shoot June once:

Evidence - June had moved a few feet. Third head shot required.


Reload, shoot the sleeping twins:

Evidence - Twins shot 8 times in bed. Amount of bullets used shows two reloads carried out on the night.


Stage the scene:

Evidence - Gun and bible by Sheila. Silencer put in a box.


Exit out of kitchen window:

Evidence - Twenty sources say it can be banged shut from outside.


Cycle home:

Evidence - Bike found at Jeremy's cottage.
 

excellent theory Adam .sounds good to me and i will give my backing to it

[rotti]

i also adamantly believe sheila could not and did not know how to chamber a round on that rifle.as some one who knows about firearms has said on this site.that she may have figured out the magazine release button but not how a round would be chambered.there is no one that can say they saw sheila touch clean or fire a rifle in their lives.i think that says alot about her interest in firearms

[david1819]

i also adamantly believe sheila could not and did not know how to chamber a round on that rifle.as some one who knows about firearms has said on this site.that she may have figured out the magazine release button but not how a round would be chambered.there is no one that can say they saw sheila touch clean or fire a rifle in their lives.i think that says alot about her interest in firearms

Peter Eaton said in his draft answers for the COLP interview that he had seen Shelia use and fire a gun at a holiday in Scotland. This was also mentioned at trial and the Dickinson Inquiry. There are many discrepancies in this area, Also there exists a Photo of Shelia holding a gun that David Boultflour sais he himself has seen.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5DLsf0UggyWN1FEdlh5dUdRWkNfR0prdUJVclFldw/view?pref=2&pli=1

[rotti]

Peter Eaton said in his draft answers for the COLP interview that he had seen Shelia use and fire a gun at a holiday in Scotland. This was also mentioned at trial and the Dickinson Inquiry. There are many discrepancies in this area, Also there exists a Photo of Shelia holding a gun that David Boultflour sais he himself has seen.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5DLsf0UggyWN1FEdlh5dUdRWkNfR0prdUJVclFldw/view?pref=2&pli=1

how old was she when on that holiday.8.can you show the gun she holding is real.could it be an air rifle or a plastic rifle.you cannot prove its real.also i have to sturdy the document .which you have linked.to see if its real .also why not mention the fact she could not have known how to release the mag and chamber a round.