Author Topic: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?  (Read 334461 times)

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #90 on: January 01, 2016, 06:07:33 PM »
we did  have a link to the court transcripts some time ago...they were discussed at lenghth..perhaps someone still has it...as for the evidence...we know that there was no forensic evidence to support the case...none of the blood discovered matched joanna...there was absolutely no evidence to support the police case that she was dismembered and fed to the pigs.
The only evidence was the confessions...beaten out of her....she may be guilty...but from what we know there is no real evidence to prove it....even beyond reasonable doubt....the lack of evidence is astonishing

You don't seem to have answered my question.
Why do you suppose the court found her guilty of murder and later increased her sentence ?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #91 on: January 01, 2016, 06:07:44 PM »
we did  have a link to the court transcripts some time ago...they were discussed at lenghth..perhaps someone still has it...as for the evidence...we know that there was no forensic evidence to support the case...none of the blood discovered matched joanna...there was absolutely no evidence to support the police case that she was dismembered and fed to the pigs.
The only evidence was the confessions...beaten out of her....she may be guilty...but from what we know there is no real evidence to prove it....even beyond reasonable doubt....the lack of evidence is astonishing

The mother freely admitted the girl was deceased, first by her hand and later by the hand of her brother.

Not the actions of an innocent woman!
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #92 on: January 01, 2016, 06:38:50 PM »
You don't seem to have answered my question.
Why do you suppose the court found her guilty of murder and later increased her sentence ?

Anyone who still believes the Ciprianos are the innocent victims of a police stitch-up are kidding themselves.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #93 on: January 01, 2016, 06:49:55 PM »
The mother freely admitted the girl was deceased, first by her hand and later by the hand of her brother.

Not the actions of an innocent woman!

Do you have a cite that she freely admitted

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #94 on: January 01, 2016, 06:54:15 PM »
You don't seem to have answered my question.
Why do you suppose the court found her guilty of murder and later increased her sentence ?

I have answered several of your questions on a forum where very few answer questions
Before I answer anymore let's see if angelo answers mine...
And I have one for you
What makes you think she is guilty
In the interest of fairness perhaps you could answer just this on e question for me
Then we can move on



Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #95 on: January 01, 2016, 06:59:45 PM »

Let's avoid the insults, please.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #96 on: January 01, 2016, 07:06:23 PM »
The mother freely admitted the girl was deceased, first by her hand and later by the hand of her brother.

Not the actions of an innocent woman!

she did not freely admit anything....please stick to the facts

Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #97 on: January 01, 2016, 08:01:44 PM »
she did not freely admit anything....please stick to the facts

Can you cite the date of her court appearance before a magstrate before the trial  where she admitted her crime and the date of her assault...did the first come after the second? Do you actually know?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #98 on: January 01, 2016, 08:25:06 PM »
Can you cite the date of her court appearance before a magstrate before the trial  where she admitted her crime and the date of her assault...did the first come after the second? Do you actually know?

I have asked John several times for a cite to confirm what he claims was a confession before the torture
As far as I am aware it has never been supplied

Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #99 on: January 01, 2016, 08:30:35 PM »
I have asked John several times for a cite to confirm what he claims was a confession before the torture
As far as I am aware it has never been supplied

But seemngly you do know the facts:

she did not freely admit anything....please stick to the facts

Then share

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #100 on: January 01, 2016, 08:34:01 PM »
But seemngly you do know the facts:

Then share

Angelo claimed she freely admitted
I asked for a cite
So far he hasn't given one
Let's have his first as I asked first

Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2016, 08:42:55 PM »
Angelo claimed she freely admitted
I asked for a cite
So far he hasn't given one
Let's have his first as I asked first

its not Angelos claim...its in the public domain....read the cipriano board


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #103 on: January 01, 2016, 08:48:02 PM »
its not Angelos claim...its in the public domain....read the cipriano board

I've read it...where are the details of the so called first confession......where is the independent evidence it ever happened

Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #104 on: January 01, 2016, 08:48:47 PM »
I've read it...where are the details of the so called first confession......where is the independent evidence it ever happened

read more carefully, its there....