Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?

[Angelo222]

I seem to remember the judge who dissented only did so because he didn't believe, as the other judges did that  it was 'immediate homicide', but did that  Cipriano killed her daughter. I will provide a cite if needed.

As to the bag over her head, that appeared later after it was established that Cipriano  was unable to identify any of her attackers. Besides if she lied, as the judges believed, how can we believe her in anything ?

Excellent post Faith.    Off out til later bye bye

[Mr Gray]

I seem to remember the judge who dissented only did so because he didn't believe, as the other judges did that  it was 'immediate homicide', but did that  Cipriano killed her daughter. I will provide a cite if needed.

As to the bag over her head, that appeared later after it was established that Cipriano  was unable to identify any of her attackers. Besides if she lied, as the judges believed, how can we believe her in anything ?

cite

[Mr Gray]

I seem to remember the judge who dissented only did so because he didn't believe, as the other judges did that  it was 'immediate homicide', but did that  Cipriano killed her daughter. I will provide a cite if needed.

As to the bag over her head, that appeared later after it was established that Cipriano  was unable to identify any of her attackers. Besides if she lied, as the judges believed, how can we believe her in anything ?

could you also provide  a cite re the later claim of the bag over the head

[Mr Gray]

Excellent post Faith.    Off out til later bye bye

not if she cant supply  a cite for either claim

[stephen25000]

what relevance has that to this thread...so western governments are no better than isis....please think before you post

Absolute relevance.

Governments all over the world use torture.

So dave, you tell us how will torturing be stopped ?

[Eleanor]

Topic please.  Let's not stray too far or Ellie will bring out the paper hood and the cardboard baton.

I'll second that.  I have enjoyed this discussion.

[stephen25000]

could you also provide  a cite re the later claim of the bag over the head

Google it.

Her reference to the bag over her head is the claim made by Cipriano.

[Mr Gray]

Absolute relevance.

Governments all over the world use torture.

So dave, you tell us how will torturING be stopped ?

I'm not interested in getting into an off topic debate that will be removed

[Mr Gray]

Google it.

Her reference to the bag over her head is the claim made by Cipriano.

so no one provides cites anymore...just post any old rubbish

[stephen25000]

I'm not interested in getting into an off topic debate that will be removed

You have been on about torture all day.

So it is relevant and hardly unique to what has happened in Portugal in the past

[Eleanor]

I'm not interested in getting into an off topic debate that will be removed

Very wise.  Take note, Stephen.

[stephen25000]

so no one provides cites anymore...just post any old rubbish

It is not rubbish.

[Mr Gray]

You have been on about torture all day.

So it is relevant and hardly unique to what has happened in Portugal in the past

I have my own views on govt torture re terrorist....having seen what terrorists bombs do to people when I was in casualty...but this is not the time or place

[stephen25000]

Very wise.  Take note, Stephen.

I always take note and analyse. 

[Eleanor]

I always take note and analyse. 

Thank You.