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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #360 on: January 02, 2016, 06:37:18 PM »
You are basing your opinion on the UK system.......Montclair was quite clear on the success rates of appeals..an absolute waste of time it would seem

I am basing my opinion on the right to appeal.
It is however good to see you using Montclair's opinions as the basis for your argument.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #361 on: January 02, 2016, 06:38:01 PM »
I will not ask for a Cite for that.  You simply don't know what is required or what was provided.  And Amnesty International will not leave her high and dry.

Now what would Amnesty do with the inconsistencies and downright lies of her versions of events ?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #362 on: January 02, 2016, 06:40:28 PM »
The Court of Human Rights.  They'll sort it.  Torture isn't allowed for any reason.

The Court of Human Rights cannot overturn the verdict of the Portuguese court.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #363 on: January 02, 2016, 06:42:31 PM »
I am basing my opinion on the right to appeal.
It is however good to see you using Montclair's opinions as the basis for your argument.

are you and am I

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #364 on: January 02, 2016, 06:43:53 PM »
Now what would Amnesty do with the inconsistencies and downright lies of her versions of events ?

Why don't you ask them, Stephen?  But as it is they only have to provide her with a Lawyer.  A Portuguese Court ruled that she was beaten in custody.
That's it really.  Portugal will either pay up or be Judged.  And then pay up.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #365 on: January 02, 2016, 06:45:29 PM »
The Court of Human Rights cannot overturn the verdict of the Portuguese court.

What's to overturn?  A Portuguese Court ruled that she had been beaten in custody.  Nothing to overturn.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #366 on: January 02, 2016, 06:47:04 PM »
drmarcosaragaocorreia-427m@adv.oa.pt

I look forward to it Dave.

ps  you could also write to Leonor and ask her directly.

after what Leonor has been through...if she is innocent... she will be in a terrible state... I will email Correia....

Offline John

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #367 on: January 02, 2016, 07:08:00 PM »
You could write to her here in Portuguese.

Leonor Cipriano
Estabelecimento Prisional de Odemira
Segurança e Justiça > Estabelecimento Prisional
Rua Regeal do Roduto
7630-128 Odemira
PORTUGAL

« Last Edit: January 02, 2016, 07:11:07 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #368 on: January 02, 2016, 07:12:10 PM »
You could write to her here in Portuguese.

Leonor Cipriano
Estabelecimento Prisional de Odemira
Segurança e Justiça > Estabelecimento Prisional
Rua Regeal do Roduto
7630-128 Odemira
PORTUGAL



Correia is the initial contact...thanks for the info

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #369 on: January 02, 2016, 07:14:21 PM »
after what Leonor has been through...if she is innocent... she will be in a terrible state... I will email Correia....

What about her daughter dave ?

What did she 'go through' ?

Offline John

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #370 on: January 02, 2016, 07:15:52 PM »
Correia is the initial contact...thanks for the info

Good luck but I believe he is more into writing these days.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #371 on: January 02, 2016, 07:16:00 PM »
What about her daughter dave ?

What did she 'go through' ?

I have no idea...and neither do you

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #372 on: January 02, 2016, 07:17:43 PM »
I have no idea...and neither do you

The verdict stands dave.

She was murdered.


Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #373 on: January 02, 2016, 07:19:21 PM »
What's to overturn?  A Portuguese Court ruled that she had been beaten in custody.  Nothing to overturn.

The Portuguese court ruled she was guilty of murder. The ECHR cannot overrule that.
It is doubtful it will be heard by the ECHR until all Portuguese legal processes have been exhausted by the complainant.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #374 on: January 02, 2016, 07:19:37 PM »
Good luck but I believe he is more into writing these days.

He may well be able to put me in touch with someone else who could help. The problem is that any case in the European Court in this case is going to potentially make a judgement against Portugal...that might not be  a wise career move for any lawyer...but we will see