Author Topic: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?  (Read 334461 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #375 on: January 02, 2016, 07:20:29 PM »
The verdict stands dave.

She was murdered.

Do you have absolute proof she is dead

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #376 on: January 02, 2016, 07:24:14 PM »
Do you have absolute proof she is dead

So where would she be if she was alive ?

There has been no trace of her since her disappearance, and you know that.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #377 on: January 02, 2016, 07:25:12 PM »
So where would she be if she was alive ?

There has been no trace of her since her disappearance, and you know that.

so you don't have absolute proof she is dead

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #378 on: January 02, 2016, 07:25:17 PM »
The Portuguese court ruled she was guilty of murder. The ECHR cannot overrule that.
It is doubtful it will be heard by the ECHR until all Portuguese legal processes have been exhausted by the complainant.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. This isn't about The Verdict.  It's about The Torture.  The Torture happened before The Verdict.  Torture is against EU Law whether the victim of that Torture is Guilty or not.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #379 on: January 02, 2016, 07:26:53 PM »
I will not ask for a Cite for that.  You simply don't know what is required or what was provided.  And Amnesty International will not leave her high and dry.

Perhaps you can point me to the campaigning Amnesty International has carried out on Cipriano's behalf ?

Am I correct in my recollection that Amnesty International dropped Cipriano's case from their website some time ago after it was established that she lied about her torture ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #380 on: January 02, 2016, 07:27:56 PM »
Perhaps you can point me to the campaigning Amnesty International has carried out on Cipriano's behalf ?

Am I correct in my recollection that Amnesty International dropped Cipriano's case from their website some time ago after it was established that she lied about her torture ?

no you are incorrect...another myth...it's amazing how many myths some sceptics beleive

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #381 on: January 02, 2016, 07:29:30 PM »
so you don't have absolute proof she is dead

You did not answer the question.

Has she been declared dead dave ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #382 on: January 02, 2016, 07:30:52 PM »
You did not answer the question.

Has she been declared dead dave ?

that's because you didn't answer mine

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #383 on: January 02, 2016, 07:43:03 PM »
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. This isn't about The Verdict.  It's about The Torture.  The Torture happened before The Verdict.  Torture is against EU Law whether the victim of that Torture is Guilty or not.

I don't think I have!
The ECHR will probably not allow the case to be heard until the contracting states own remedies regarding torture have been exhausted. Have they been exhausted ?

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stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #384 on: January 02, 2016, 07:43:37 PM »
that's because you didn't answer mine

I posed the initial question, which you are avoiding.

She has been declared dead.

HER MOTHER AND UNCLE FOUND GUILTY OF HER MURDER.

By the way, why aren't you concerned about the uncle ?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #385 on: January 02, 2016, 07:44:44 PM »
Correia is the initial contact...thanks for the info

Telling.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #386 on: January 02, 2016, 07:45:10 PM »
Perhaps you can point me to the campaigning Amnesty International has carried out on Cipriano's behalf ?

Am I correct in my recollection that Amnesty International dropped Cipriano's case from their website some time ago after it was established that she lied about her torture ?

Yup, groundhog day


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2690.0

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Offline Mr Gray


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #388 on: January 02, 2016, 07:46:17 PM »
Yup, groundhog day


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2690.0

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i know its been discussed before...that's how I know it isn't true

Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #389 on: January 02, 2016, 07:48:11 PM »
i know its been discussed before...that's how I know it isn't true

Then you should  have posted evidence if you have it and not peoples time and bandwidth wasting.....