Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?

[ferryman]

I don't see the relevance to my post.
I would feel a lot more convinced with "supporters" (generic not specific) being sincere in their outrage at the Cipriano case had they been actively protesting and setting up fora and so on in 2004/2005. But for a "group" to openly admit they had never had of it until after MM disappeared leaves one thinking why the sudden interest at that point. They have certainly achieved Felicity Arkwright wrt Leonor Cipriano's "plight" despite the noise.

The answer is very simple.

Those who care about Joana (and were also tortured into "confessing" to her murder) were less proficient at publicising the plight of both themselves and their daughter than the McCanns.

[Brietta]

I know what you did Brietta and why you did it.

To give the impression from a newspaper headline, about the mccanns being 'framed'.


Unlike cuddle cat,  it doesn't wash.

Actually I posted in response to a post arising from discussion which was deleted by the poster. 

Leandro Silva's accusation illustrates why it may be considered that there is a correlation between Madeleine's case and that of Joana.  He appeared to think there was. 

If one is expected to post only what meets with your approval what a boring place the forum would be.

[Alice Purjorick]

The answer is very simple.

Those who care about Joana (and were also tortured into "confessing" to her murder) were less proficient at publicising the plight of both themselves and their daughter than the McCanns.

They knew enough to start websites.
I am still at a loss to understand why Amnesty International seem to have given the "possible" miscarriage of justice such a wide berth considering AI started in the early 1960s on the back of human rights violations in Portugal and they covered the torture of Leonor Cipriano.

[Mr Gray]

They knew enough to start websites.
I am still at a loss to understand why Amnesty International seem to have given the "possible" miscarriage of justice such a wide berth considering AI started in the early 1960s on the back of human rights violations in Portugal and they covered the torture of Leonor Cipriano.

What would you expect them to do.....

[Alice Purjorick]

What would you expect them to do.....

I posted that a couple of days ago or so. You must have missed it. Abbreviated slightly it was:

Amnesty International say:
"Amnesty International has never been able to take up all the cases that come to our attention. We take up cases which are for example particularly grave, which are emblematic of a problem we are trying to address, where success in one case will have resonance for many others and where we think we can make a difference".

They seem to have given the Cipriano case a wide berth vis a vis getting in there and making the dust fly.

[Angelo222]

It seems Leandro Silva made sure the Drs McCann were made aware of Joana's case ... it was bound to be an added concern.


Kate McCann 'being framed by Portuguese police'
Last updated at 11:17 08 August 2007

Kate McCann is being set up by Portuguese police to take the blame over Madeleine, it was claimed today.

The husband of a woman serving 16 years in another missing child case in the Algarve said: "I am worried Kate will be framed for a crime she did not commit, the way it happened to my wife."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473964/Kate-McCann-framed-Portuguese-police.html#ixzz3xEX4Xq6S

Who would listen to anything a pimp says?  Other than the Daily Fail that is and a reporter who didn't even dare put his name to the article.

[Mr Gray]

I posted that a couple of days ago or so. You must have missed it. Abbreviated slightly it was:

Amnesty International say:
"Amnesty International has never been able to take up all the cases that come to our attention. We take up cases which are for example particularly grave, which are emblematic of a problem we are trying to address, where success in one case will have resonance for many others and where we think we can make a difference".

They seem to have given the Cipriano case a wide berth vis a vis getting in there and making the dust fly.

she was featured on the website...as were others and treated just the same as others so I don't see how that is giving her a wide berth

[Angelo222]

she was featured on the website...as were others and treated just the same as others so I don't see how that is giving her a wide berth

That was years ago, its all been swept under the carpet now since she was convicted of perjury.

[Alice Purjorick]

she was featured on the website...as were others and treated just the same as others so I don't see how that is giving her a wide berth

I know that. They have dealt with the torture aspect but not a dicky bird about miscarriage of justice. Given they say:

"Amnesty International has never been able to take up all the cases that come to our attention. We take up cases which are for example particularly grave, which are emblematic of a problem we are trying to address, where success in one case will have resonance for many others and where we think we can make a difference".

They presumably did not think the case fitted into the categories in bold font.

[Mr Gray]

That was years ago, its all been swept under the carpet now since she was convicted of perjury.

nothing has been swept under the carpet...once torture was accepted by the court and the trial finished it was no longer featured.

[Alice Purjorick]

Who would listen to anything a pimp says?  Other than the Daily Fail that is and a reporter who didn't even dare put his name to the article.

Unsubstantiated quotes from pimps reported in The Daily Mail.
That really is scraping the bottom of the hogshead of cites.

[Mr Gray]

I know that. They have dealt with the torture aspect but not a dicky bird about miscarriage of justice. Given they say:

"Amnesty International has never been able to take up all the cases that come to our attention. We take up cases which are for example particularly grave, which are emblematic of a problem we are trying to address, where success in one case will have resonance for many others and where we think we can make a difference".

They presumably did not think the case fitted into the categories in bold font.

did they feature Barry George

[Alice Purjorick]

did they feature Barry George

That is irrelevant.
Amnesty International have done nothing with regard to a miscarriage of justice in the Cipriano case nor has anyone else come to that. All the noise is coming from McCann supporters but even they seem to be doing little to advance the case of miscarriage of justice other than be noisy on sites like this. It is hardly an effectual approach to achieving a reversal is it?

[Mr Gray]

That is irrelevant.
Amnesty International have done nothing with regard to a miscarriage of justice in the Cipriano case nor has anyone else come to that. All the noise is coming from McCann supporters but even they seem to be doing little to advance the case of miscarriage of justice other than be noisy on sites like this. It is hardly an effectual approach to achieving a reversal is it?

and all the noise coming from the sceptics has done nothing to advance a case against the mccanns...I don't see any point in your post...this is a discussion forum.....

[Carana]

Who would listen to anything a pimp says?  Other than the Daily Fail that is and a reporter who didn't even dare put his name to the article.

Who are you saying is a pimp?