Author Topic: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?  (Read 335027 times)

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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1620 on: January 21, 2016, 04:38:31 PM »
Cristovão was involved in the Cipriano case as he was one of the ones sent down by Lisbon... to lend a hand.

Ah yes, Cristovão.  So he was a PJ inspector from Lisbon then. 

Anyone know what he is doing now? 

Online misty

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1621 on: January 21, 2016, 04:46:44 PM »
Ah yes, Cristovão.  So he was a PJ inspector from Lisbon then. 

Anyone know what he is doing now?

He's currently under house arrest awaiting the outcome of the trial for bribery & corruption whilst employed at Sporting Lisbon. He still has the matter of kidnapping & aggravated burglaries to face yet.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1622 on: January 21, 2016, 04:51:36 PM »
He's currently under house arrest awaiting the outcome of the trial for bribery & corruption whilst employed at Sporting Lisbon. He still has the matter of kidnapping & aggravated burglaries to face yet.

Gosh.  And he is another one involved in investigating this case.  Just goes to show. 

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1623 on: January 21, 2016, 05:05:16 PM »
......and in another 100 pages of this thread will anyone believe any different or change the typed mantra ?


Online misty

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1624 on: January 21, 2016, 05:13:25 PM »
......and in another 100 pages of this thread will anyone believe any different or change the typed mantra ?

We'll just keep going & see, shall we?

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1625 on: January 21, 2016, 05:14:25 PM »
......and in another 100 pages of this thread will anyone believe any different or change the typed mantra ?



It am sure it won't to you Stephen. 

But some find it interesting to see just how many of the "accepted facts" about the Cipriano case do not bear close examination.  The more I see of this, the more convinced I am that the court decision is unsafe. 

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1626 on: January 21, 2016, 05:14:30 PM »
We'll just keep going & see, shall we?

You mean rather like the SY investigation ?

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1627 on: January 21, 2016, 05:16:15 PM »
It am sure it won't to you Stephen. 

But some find it interesting to see just how many of the "accepted facts" about the Cipriano case do not bear close examination.  The more I see of this, the more convinced I am that the court decision is unsafe.

What accepted facts ?



and of course it won't change the verdict or opinions on here.

Online misty

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1628 on: January 21, 2016, 05:20:43 PM »
You mean rather like the SY investigation ?

SY are still following focussed leads, not resting on their laurels. I realise that displeases those who want to see the parents jailed.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1629 on: January 21, 2016, 05:24:13 PM »
What accepted facts ?



and of course it won't change the verdict or opinions on here.

OK - a very trivial small example.  A moderator on this forum stated as a fact, that Correia was Ciprianos lawyer at her original trial.

 

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1630 on: January 21, 2016, 05:26:09 PM »
......and in another 100 pages of this thread will anyone believe any different or change the typed mantra ?

I've certainly changed my mind
At the start of the thread I thought they just might be innocent

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1631 on: January 21, 2016, 05:27:36 PM »
OK - a very trivial small example.  A moderator on this forum stated as a fact, that Correia was Ciprianos lawyer at her original trial.

I think it might be two moderators

Offline Carana

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1632 on: January 21, 2016, 05:30:30 PM »
What accepted facts ?



and of course it won't change the verdict or opinions on here.


I can't see what could possibly reopen an official investigation into Joana's disappearance unless she is found aiive or dead.

Or.... just possibly if the PJ is quietly reinvestigating it with indirect assistance from the Met such as potentially recuperating phone records to check who was in that village that night. It may be too late, though.

Offline Carana

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1633 on: January 21, 2016, 06:16:01 PM »
I don't undertand Correia, to be honest...

- Why does he assume that both children are dead?

- Why does he only defend Leonor?

- What was the purpose of allowing these new "confessions", whoever's idea that was, as if it would constitute new credible, pertinent and relevant evidence to relaunch an investigation into what happened to Joana?

His heart may have been in the right place in terms of trying to get an investigation relaunched, but I don't understand how he thought that it could have worked.



stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1634 on: January 21, 2016, 06:24:49 PM »
OK - a very trivial small example.  A moderator on this forum stated as a fact, that Correia was Ciprianos lawyer at her original trial.

There are myths on both sides.

It does not mean they are not guilty.