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Offline Myster

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2016, 04:16:50 PM »
Photographer Bird most likely shut the door to get in a better position to photograph the full length body from the head end.

The second casing was found as in this drawing, probably hidden by Sheila's raised left arm (or body) hence unnoticed at first... simples.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2016, 04:24:21 PM »
I was looking to see if JB's layout of WHF for the police showed access to the box room via the twins room and it does.  Meaning there was no reason in theory for the police to move SC to gain access as they could achieve this via the twins room unless for operational reasons they believed it was best to gain access via the main bedroom?

This might be something or nothing but as a result of looking at JB's diagram I noticed he referred to Sheila by the surname of Bamber and the twins by the surname Caffell.  PC West said JB was unable to recall SC's surname and gave the surname of Bamber? 

Did JB mean he was unable to recall whether SC was formally Bamber or Caffell due to her her divorce?
Did JB forget the surname Caffell which he remembered when outside WHF?
Did PC West forget to ask or got muddled and wrote down Bamber?  He claims JB was unable to recall SC's marital name.  I've always thought PC West is the weak link in the telephone communication chain.
Is it relevant anyway?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=170.0;attach=315

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2016, 04:30:02 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on January 30, 2016, 04:24:21 PM
I was looking to see if JB's layout of WHF for the police showed access to the box room via the twins room and it does.  Meaning there was no reason in theory for the police to move SC to gain access as they could achieve this via the twins room unless for operational reasons they believed it was best to gain access via the main bedroom?

This might be something or nothing but as a result of looking at JB's diagram I noticed he referred to Sheila by the surname of Bamber and the twins by the surname Caffell.  PC West said JB was unable to recall SC's surname and gave the surname of Bamber? 

Did JB mean he was unable to recall whether SC was formally Bamber or Caffell due to her her divorce?
Did JB forget the surname Caffell which he remembered when outside WHF?
Did PC West forget to ask or got muddled and wrote down Bamber?  He claims JB was unable to recall SC's marital name.  I've always thought PC West is the weak link in the telephone communication chain.
Is it relevant anyway?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=170.0;attach=315

Actually re-reading PC West's WS I see he doesn't say JB was unable to recall SC's surname but "initmated" he could not recall her married name.   &%+((£
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Offline Myster

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2016, 04:38:22 PM »
So impersonal, that phony phone call... his father supposedly said - "Your sister's gone crazy...".  Wouldn't he have given her proper name - "Sheila's gone crazy..."?
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Offline scipio_usmc

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2016, 05:06:59 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on January 30, 2016, 04:30:02 PM
Actually re-reading PC West's WS I see he doesn't say JB was unable to recall SC's surname but "initmated" he could not recall her married name.   &%+((£

If he had much interaction with her or Collin he would know instantly.  I know my step nephews last name.At first glance it makes it look like he was not very close to her or his nephews and Collin.  In any event maybe he was doing it on purpose to try to make it sound like he was so upset that he could not think.  He was definitely acting at various times while talking to police but he was an inconsistent actor. He did not stay in character.

Obviously he knew her married name by the time he wrote the drawing because he listed the twins by their last name.  So either he really could not remember it when he spoke to West or he was acting.

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2016, 05:18:35 PM »
Quote from: Myster on January 30, 2016, 04:38:22 PM
So impersonal, that phony phone call... his father supposedly said - "Your sister's gone crazy...".  Wouldn't he have given her proper name - "Sheila's gone crazy..."?

I guess it depends how NB referred to SC when speaking with JB.  JB has referred to "sisters room" on layout of WHF. 

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2016, 03:31:00 PM »
Quote from: Myster on January 30, 2016, 04:38:22 PM
So impersonal, that phony phone call... his father supposedly said - "Your sister's gone crazy...".  Wouldn't he have given her proper name - "Sheila's gone crazy..."?

JB claimed "Sheilas gone crazy shes got the gun".
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Offline Myster

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2016, 05:20:33 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on January 31, 2016, 03:31:00 PM
JB claimed "Sheilas gone crazy shes got the gun".

No he dident didn't... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-jeremy-bamber-files-exclusive-audio-191151

Phew... naerly had a gungun moment!
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Offline John

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2016, 02:40:21 PM »
Quote from: scipio_usmc on January 24, 2016, 05:16:30 AM
There relevant portions of Collins statements:


Thank you scipio, I must add the full statements to the library.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2016, 03:34:47 PM »
Quote from: Myster on January 31, 2016, 05:20:33 PM
No he dident didn't... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-jeremy-bamber-files-exclusive-audio-191151

Phew... naerly had a gungun moment!

But that was some 2 decades after the event!  His initial WS states "Sheila's gone crazy she's got the gun":

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5723.msg202984#msg202984

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Offline John

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2016, 03:44:01 PM »
Please note:  PC Collins two statements have been added to the library.

I have added some comments and observations at the end.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=160.msg1756#msg1756
« Last Edit: February 01, 2016, 04:07:42 PM by John »
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Offline Myster

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2016, 04:17:27 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on February 01, 2016, 03:34:47 PM
But that was some 2 decades after the event!  His initial WS states "Sheila's gone crazy she's got the gun":

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5723.msg202984#msg202984

I'll go with the 2002 CoA document. The author(s) must have got "Your sister has gone crazy..." from somewhere. Maybe it's in another one of JB's unavailable statements.
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Offline scipio_usmc

Re: Someone else who noted...was correct
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2016, 04:52:35 PM »
Quote from: Myster on February 01, 2016, 04:17:27 PM
I'll go with the 2002 CoA document. The author(s) must have got "Your sister has gone crazy..." from somewhere. Maybe it's in another one of JB's unavailable statements.

The COA got it from West.  West recorded on his log that Jeremy told him Nevill stated please come over your sister has gone crazy and has the gun.
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