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Offline Benice

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #135 on: February 22, 2016, 01:30:06 PM »

what do you care what i believe..... the Cd's last for 4 hours ....is that the only thing you can bring up...you don't know they didn't...it could be explained in the follow up to this film

what is your opinion then about the last photo ....it wasn't sunny on the day they claimed it was took ....why did it take three weeks to show that photo ....two days after Philomena[g mcc sister] and her husband turned up who just happens to be a photo expert....if the photo was misrepresented ...that is a criminal offence

why did they only take 4 photo's ...of maddie ..

why did they give a picture ...at least a year old to the police ...

who took the tennis picture ....k mcc had to run back to get her camera....so did maddie wait patiently ..holding the balls for her to return...

why have they lied about the photo.

But I do care what you believe - so do you think Mrs Fenn colluded with the McCanns as Mr. Hall claims?  That's a pretty serious claim to make IMO.  He is saying Mrs. Fenn was dishonest.

IMO The iconic picture was chosen because it shows Madeleine full face, and with every facial detail clearly visible, including her eye 'defect' and hair colour and with no shadows to have to contend with.   

I have no problems with the last photo - and neither apparently have two police forces.   But then I'm not a conspiracy theorist desperately trying to prove that Madeleine died before the 3rd May.

AFAIK we haven't been told how many photos were taken during the holiday.  You are assuming that only the ones we have seen were taken.   But so what if they only took 4?    Not everyone is camera- happy.

It's possible that more than one person took photos of Madeleine at the tennis court.   It seems obvious that the one used came from Kate's camera.  Why would she say it did - if it didn't?    If Kate decided to lie about it - then what part of a cunning plan was that supposed to achieve?      I fail to see the 'big deal' here.

Mega nitpicking IMO - which in the absence of any evidence that the McCanns disposed of their child - is what some sceptics have been reduced to and which has now reached a ridiculous level IMO.

AIMHO

 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #136 on: February 22, 2016, 01:47:42 PM »

The only reason for why they are trying to prove that Madeleine died before the 3rd of May is because they know it would have been impossible for The McCanns to cover up anything on the 3rd.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #137 on: February 22, 2016, 02:06:23 PM »

his voice growing louder and louder as his words make less and less sense.

Hmmmm.just like the mccs.......except R H ...has nothing to hide



well you would say the above wouldn't you .........its what you do ....you don't question anything that would prove the mccs involved ....the abduction has to be 100% right.....even though there is 0% proof ...

i bet no one could make a ten minute film about abduction ....let alone four hours ...and the rest

what do you think about the so called last photo then ..[to mention just one thing]...the last sunny day was the sunday ...so why did they lie about it being on the last day .....

even kmcc in her book said ...it was cold and she wished she had put a cardigan on maddie on the 3rd ....

look at the last photo ....did maddie need a cardigan fgs
Just to clarify that review wasn't written by me, but by one of the "sceptic" brigade.  Obviously one with slightly higher standards than the average h*er.

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #138 on: February 22, 2016, 03:06:30 PM »
But I do care what you believe - so do you think Mrs Fenn colluded with the McCanns as Mr. Hall claims?  That's a pretty serious claim to make IMO.  He is saying Mrs. Fenn was dishonest.

IMO The iconic picture was chosen because it shows Madeleine full face, and with every facial detail clearly visible, including her eye 'defect' and hair colour and with no shadows to have to contend with.   

I have no problems with the last photo - and neither apparently have two police forces.   But then I'm not a conspiracy theorist desperately trying to prove that Madeleine died before the 3rd May.

AFAIK we haven't been told how many photos were taken during the holiday.  You are assuming that only the ones we have seen were taken.   But so what if they only took 4?    Not everyone is camera- happy.

It's possible that more than one person took photos of Madeleine at the tennis court.   It seems obvious that the one used came from Kate's camera.  Why would she say it did - if it didn't?    If Kate decided to lie about it - then what part of a cunning plan was that supposed to achieve?      I fail to see the 'big deal' here.

Mega nitpicking IMO - which in the absence of any evidence that the McCanns disposed of their child - is what some sceptics have been reduced to and which has now reached a ridiculous level IMO.

AIMHO


oh come onnnn....the only photo that that showed maddie with a full face ....you couldn't even see her eye ....just a her little chubby face with shorter hair ....it didn't even look like maddie as she was then


the reason about the tennis photo ....is Rachel Oldfield said she took it ...so one of them is lying

still didn't mention the last photo though ...did you..when the day it was claimed to have been took was not a sunny day
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #139 on: February 22, 2016, 03:11:46 PM »

Good heavens.  The McCanns didn't have make a mess of this colossal cover up.  No wonder RDH found it all so easy.  Expect The McCanns to be arrested at any moment.

Have I got time for a quick Tick Tock?

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #140 on: February 22, 2016, 03:32:08 PM »
Good heavens.  The McCanns didn't have make a mess of this colossal cover up.  No wonder RDH found it all so easy.  Expect The McCanns to be arrested at any moment.

Have I got time for a quick Tick Tock?


another one who has the guts to go against the mccs version ....another one i applaud....

why if you so believe in the mccs ....are you all so intent on rubbishing anything ..or anyone.that shows there is two sides to this story ....and a three year old little girl involved ...maddie.
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #141 on: February 22, 2016, 03:40:31 PM »

another one who has the guts to go against the mccs version ....another one i applaud....

why if you so believe in the mccs ....are you all so intent on rubbishing anything ..or anyone.that shows there is two sides to this story ....and a three year old little girl involved ...maddie.

There aren't two sides to this story.  Ask Scotland Yard and The PJ.

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #142 on: February 22, 2016, 03:56:01 PM »

another one who has the guts to go against the mccs version ....another one i applaud....

why if you so believe in the mccs ....are you all so intent on rubbishing anything ..or anyone.that shows there is two sides to this story ....and a three year old little girl involved ...maddie.


Let's try this once more.


Which inconsistencies in even that first episode have you double-checked and have found to be a red flag of nefarious deeds?

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #143 on: February 22, 2016, 04:12:25 PM »

another one who has the guts to go against the mccs version ....another one i applaud....

why if you so believe in the mccs ....are you all so intent on rubbishing anything ..or anyone.that shows there is two sides to this story ....and a three year old little girl involved ...maddie.

Hall is a conspiracy theorist - and he seems to be convinced that the whole of the MSM, governments, police and authorites are involved in a gigantic conspiracy to deceive "the public" in virtually every area of life no doubt orchestrated by a shadowy cabal of extremely wealthy and influential people.   

And in the case of the McCanns that MI5, Clarence Mitchell, the MSM, SY and the PJ, let alone the Portuguese and UK governments, are conspiring to cover up the "fact" that Madeleine died on the Sunday.  That the events of the 3rd were an incredibly complicated deception staged to cover up this fact and that this has carried on for 9 years.

There are two problems with this.

If her disappearance was of sufficient importance to demand a cover up of this magnitude, then "the public" would never have heard about it in the first place.

There is a very simple explanation which does not involve a complex, gigantic conspiracy  involving thousands of people for 9 years - that someone walked into the appartment using a spare key and took Madeleine.  Thats it.   

 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #144 on: February 22, 2016, 06:05:33 PM »
Hall is a conspiracy theorist - and he seems to be convinced that the whole of the MSM, governments, police and authorites are involved in a gigantic conspiracy to deceive "the public" in virtually every area of life no doubt orchestrated by a shadowy cabal of extremely wealthy and influential people.   

And in the case of the McCanns that MI5, Clarence Mitchell, the MSM, SY and the PJ, let alone the Portuguese and UK governments, are conspiring to cover up the "fact" that Madeleine died on the Sunday.  That the events of the 3rd were an incredibly complicated deception staged to cover up this fact and that this has carried on for 9 years.

There are two problems with this.

If her disappearance was of sufficient importance to demand a cover up of this magnitude, then "the public" would never have heard about it in the first place.

There is a very simple explanation which does not involve a complex, gigantic conspiracy  involving thousands of people for 9 years - that someone walked into the appartment using a spare key and took Madeleine.  Thats it.
Oh lord, that's far too simple an explanation. I'm surprised Stephen hasn't come along to say "NO PROOF OF ABDUCTION" yet. @)(++(*

stephen25000

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #145 on: February 22, 2016, 06:07:28 PM »
Oh lord, that's far too simple an explanation. I'm surprised Stephen hasn't come along to say "NO PROOF OF ABDUCTION" yet. @)(++(*

I don't need to alfred.

NIL POINTS for the investigation.

TOTAL FAILURE.

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #146 on: February 22, 2016, 06:22:10 PM »

Let's try this once more.


Which inconsistencies in even that first episode have you double-checked and have found to be a red flag of nefarious deeds?




you can try as many times as you like

its your problem....not mine....

i don't have to prove anything to you

or double check anything,,,fgs  8**8:/:
« Last Edit: February 22, 2016, 06:27:55 PM by Eleanor »
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Benice

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #147 on: February 22, 2016, 06:25:38 PM »

oh come onnnn....the only photo that that showed maddie with a full face ....you couldn't even see her eye ....just a her little chubby face with shorter hair ....it didn't even look like maddie as she was then


the reason about the tennis photo ....is Rachel Oldfield said she took it ...so one of them is lying

still didn't mention the last photo though ...did you..when the day it was claimed to have been took was not a sunny day

Anyone who can't see Madeleine's eye (complete with mark) on that iconic photograph urgently needs to go to Specsavers IMO.

IIRC Rachael Oldfield did not say she took the tennis photo of Madeleine.  She thought it was Jane Tanner who she saw taking photos of Ella and Madeleine and so assumed Jane had taken that particular photo.

Quote from Jayne Tanners Rog statement re the weather on Thursday when the last photo was taken:-

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Reply    “No, not at all, no.  As I say, at this stage, this is when everybody was sat down and everybody was saying how well it had all worked.  This was the night when we were all saying that, so, no, there was nothing.  And we’d had a really, I think in some ways it had been the nicest day because the weather had been nicer, we’d all had the chance, you know, we’d taken the kids to the beach, we were all saying, you know, it was probably, it’s ironic, but it had been the best day of the holiday so far because, you know, we’d been able to do something with the kids and blah blah, so”.
End quote

You still haven't said whether you agree with R. Hall that Mrs Fenn colluded with the McCanns and fabricated some of her evidence??






The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #148 on: February 22, 2016, 06:29:08 PM »
There aren't two sides to this story.  Ask Scotland Yard and The PJ.


 @)(++(*

Scotland yard PJ.......is there two sides to this story

i will let you know when the answer what they say Eleanor  8((()*/ 8((()*/
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #149 on: February 22, 2016, 06:33:50 PM »
I don't need to alfred.

NIL POINTS for the investigation.

TOTAL FAILURE.
LOL.  What took you so long?