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[Carana]

 It is disputed whether there was such a 'high tea' arrangement that week, and there is as you know evidence that contradicts it.
(snip)
       

Upon questioning, she states that the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_JOSE.htm

Are you saying that the high tea cook is lying or mistaken about catering to the crèche children that week?

[Lace]

You are misleading members of this forum.

You know perfectly well that I posted up the thread a clear statement of Emma Wilding that the children were collected 'from the creches' and not from some sort of 'super high tea' for all the creche children. It is disputed whether there was such a 'high tea' arrangement that week, and there is as you know evidence that contradicts it.

It might be better for you to say: "I prefer the evidence of those who say there was a high tea for all the crèche children at the Tapas restaurant every day to those who insist that there wasn't".           

You are misleading members of this forum.


 *&*%£

Sorry but that is so funny.

[Alice Purjorick]

You are misleading members of this forum.


 *&*%£

Sorry but that is so funny.

Possibly the only time we will agree on something, Lace. 

[xtina]

Upon questioning, she states that the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_JOSE.htm

Are you saying that the high tea cook is lying or mistaken about catering to the crèche children that week?

the cook will not have remembered maddie specifically ....why should she.... she assumed she would have been there

she recognised her from the tv ..she did not know who the child was...or her name .the picture of a younger maddie ...so it could have been anyone of the children

Russel O'Brien ...knew maddie ...knew who maddie was... yet from his statement

cannot remember if maddie was there or not ...

that does suggest he wasn't used to seeing her there ...

or he would have noticed maddie..... as not being there



When Kate ran past on her run she didn’t speak to us, but she did acknowledge us as a group.
We didn’t stick to our usual routine so much that day the children stayed with us and ate their tea at the bar by the beach called the Paridiso.  Everyone was there at the beach except Kate, Gerry and their kids.  I collected Ella from the Ocean Club before she went up to tea at the Tapas Bar, I cannot say whether Madeleine was there or not.

[xtina]

You are misleading members of this forum.


 *&*%£

Sorry but that is so funny.

well it defiantly would the hundreds of guests that look in ....

but I would assume that is mostly.... your intention 

[Carana]

the cook will not have remembered maddie specifically ....why should she.... she assumed she would have been there

she recognised her from the tv ..she did not know who the child was...or her name .the picture of a younger maddie ...so it could have been anyone of the children

Russel O'Brien ...knew maddie ...knew who maddie was... yet from his statement

cannot remember if maddie was there or not ...

that does suggest he wasn't used to seeing her there ...

or he would have noticed maddie..... as not being there



When Kate ran past on her run she didn’t speak to us, but she did acknowledge us as a group.
We didn’t stick to our usual routine so much that day the children stayed with us and ate their tea at the bar by the beach called the Paridiso.  Everyone was there at the beach except Kate, Gerry and their kids.  I collected Ella from the Ocean Club before she went up to tea at the Tapas Bar, I cannot say whether Madeleine was there or not.

Blonk stated:


Quote: "It is disputed whether there was such a 'high tea' arrangement that week, and there is as you know evidence that contradicts it."
Unquote

Xtina, can you confirm that there was no high tea for any of the crèche children that week?

How many people would have had to have been lying (or very mistaken)  to support the idea that the Tapas high tea routine didn't happen that week?

[Carana]

well it defiantly would the hundreds of guests that look in ....

but I would assume that is mostly.... your intention 

Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

[xtina]

Blonk stated:


Quote: "It is disputed whether there was such a 'high tea' arrangement that week, and there is as you know evidence that contradicts it."
Unquote

Xtina, can you confirm that there was no high tea for any of the crèche children that week?

How many people would have had to have been lying (or very mistaken)  to support the idea that the Tapas high tea routine didn't happen that week?

EXCUSE ME .................causing confusement again....






this was your post

Upon questioning, she states that the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_JOSE.htm

Are you saying that the high tea cook is lying or mistaken about catering to the crèche children that week?







this was my reply to ...the above post

the cook will not have remembered maddie specifically ....why should she.... she assumed she would have been there

she recognised her from the tv ..she did not know who the child was...or her name .the picture of a younger maddie ...so it could have been anyone of the children

Russel O'Brien ...knew maddie ...knew who maddie was... yet from his statement

cannot remember if maddie was there or not ...

that does suggest he wasn't used to seeing her there ...

or he would have noticed maddie..... as not being there



When Kate ran past on her run she didn’t speak to us, but she did acknowledge us as a group.
We didn’t stick to our usual routine so much that day the children stayed with us and ate their tea at the bar by the beach called the Paridiso.  Everyone was there at the beach except Kate, Gerry and their kids.  I collected Ella from the Ocean Club before she went up to tea at the Tapas Bar, I cannot say whether Madeleine was there or not.

[Carana]

EXCUSE ME .................causing confusement again....






this was your post

Upon questioning, she states that the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_JOSE.htm

Are you saying that the high tea cook is lying or mistaken about catering to the crèche children that week?







this was my reply to ...the above post

the cook will not have remembered maddie specifically ....why should she.... she assumed she would have been there

she recognised her from the tv ..she did not know who the child was...or her name .the picture of a younger maddie ...so it could have been anyone of the children

Russel O'Brien ...knew maddie ...knew who maddie was... yet from his statement

cannot remember if maddie was there or not ...

that does suggest he wasn't used to seeing her there ...

or he would have noticed maddie..... as not being there



When Kate ran past on her run she didn’t speak to us, but she did acknowledge us as a group.
We didn’t stick to our usual routine so much that day the children stayed with us and ate their tea at the bar by the beach called the Paridiso.  Everyone was there at the beach except Kate, Gerry and their kids.  I collected Ella from the Ocean Club before she went up to tea at the Tapas Bar, I cannot say whether Madeleine was there or not.

Are you confirming that there was no high tea served in the Tapas restaurant area that WEEK? That is what Blonk appears to be disputing.

[jassi]

EXCUSE ME .................causing confusement again....






this was your post

Upon questioning, she states that the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_JOSE.htm

Are you saying that the high tea cook is lying or mistaken about catering to the crèche children that week?







this was my reply to ...the above post

the cook will not have remembered maddie specifically ....why should she.... she assumed she would have been there

she recognised her from the tv ..she did not know who the child was...or her name .the picture of a younger maddie ...so it could have been anyone of the children

Russel O'Brien ...knew maddie ...knew who maddie was... yet from his statement

cannot remember if maddie was there or not ...

that does suggest he wasn't used to seeing her there ...

or he would have noticed maddie..... as not being there



When Kate ran past on her run she didn’t speak to us, but she did acknowledge us as a group.
We didn’t stick to our usual routine so much that day the children stayed with us and ate their tea at the bar by the beach called the Paridiso.  Everyone was there at the beach except Kate, Gerry and their kids.  I collected Ella from the Ocean Club before she went up to tea at the Tapas Bar, I cannot say whether Madeleine was there or not.

Nice bit of ambiguity there on Rus's part. Is he saying he doesn't know if she was at the creche, or at the tea ?

[Carana]

Nice bit of ambiguity there on Rus's part. Is he saying he doesn't know if she was at the creche, or at the tea ?

How would he as the the T7 took their children to the Paraiso for their high tea that day?

[jassi]

How would he as the the T7 took their children to the Paraiso for their high tea that day?

He (Rus) says -
"When Kate ran past on her run she didn’t speak to us, but she did acknowledge us as a group.
We didn’t stick to our usual routine so much that day the children stayed with us and ate their tea at the bar by the beach called the Paridiso.  Everyone was there at the beach except Kate, Gerry and their kids. I collected Ella from the Ocean Club before she went up to tea at the Tapas Bar, I cannot say whether Madeleine was there or not.

That would mean that she (Ella) was not with them at the beach - unless they only went to the beach for their tea and not for the afternoon.


Confusion, or what?

[Carana]

He (Rus) says -
"When Kate ran past on her run she didn’t speak to us, but she did acknowledge us as a group.
We didn’t stick to our usual routine so much that day the children stayed with us and ate their tea at the bar by the beach called the Paridiso.  Everyone was there at the beach except Kate, Gerry and their kids. I collected Ella from the Ocean Club before she went up to tea at the Tapas Bar, I cannot say whether Madeleine was there or not.

That would mean that she (Ella) was not with them at the beach - unless they only went to the beach for their tea and not for the afternoon.


Confusion, or what?

I don't understand your point.

[jassi]

Never mind then.

[Carana]

Never mind then.

I really don't understand.