Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb

[Eleanor]

yes but we are talking about the mccs ...here ....arn't we ....you don't have to understand the law with them .....they think they are above it anyway...any one who says anything against them ....they sue ...

Not true.  Many, many people have libelled them over the years without a scrap of proof.  Are we supposed to believe it's all true?

[xtina]

Not true.  Many, many people have libelled them over the years without a scrap of proof.  Are we supposed to believe it's all true?

not at all ....you believe what you like ....its about ...there not being a scrap of proof ....there was an abduction...

surly you must see that .....and because of that ....some of us are concerned if there wasn't an abduction ...what the hell happened to maddie ...why was she robbed of her innocent life...she was three year old fgs ....a child ...

very badly let down by the ones who should have protected her ...and kept her safe ...her right of that .was denied her....

[Eleanor]

not at all ....you believe what you like ....its about ...there not being a scrap of proof ....there was an abduction...

surly you must see that .....and because of that ....some of us are concerned if there wasn't an abduction ...what the hell happened to maddie ...why was she robbed of her innocent life...she was three year old fgs ....a child ...

very badly let down by the ones who should have protected her ...and kept her safe ...her right of that .was denied her....

There is no proof that Madeleine is dead.  And until I see some proof I shall go on hoping.

[Lace]

oh ...surly you can think up a better excuse than that [it hasn't bothered them other times]......

Or maybe anything to do with RH just gets put in a box marked 'Loony'.

[xtina]

and

[Lace]

not at all ....you believe what you like ....its about ...there not being a scrap of proof ....there was an abduction...

surly you must see that .....and because of that ....some of us are concerned if there wasn't an abduction ...what the hell happened to maddie ...why was she robbed of her innocent life...she was three year old fgs ....a child ...

very badly let down by the ones who should have protected her ...and kept her safe ...her right of that .was denied her....

So instead you say she is dead.   

If Sara Payne's son hadn't seen the white van,  there wouldn't have been any evidence Sarah Payne had been abducted,  apart from the fact that she was missing and there was no body.   The same with Ben Needham.

[Lace]

and

Speechless.

[xtina]

Speechless.

now that's not like you ...

[Brietta]

Interestingly by "both sides" of the debate as it were.

I'm not surprised by it, though. With the majority of the members familiar with the files it seems to be a conspiracy too far to assume that all the witnesses to Madeleine's presence have some ulterior motive for making a statement to the police verifying that fact; it just doesn't work for them.

Also we "both sides" do sometimes agree on things, it may be just that we shout louder when we disagree.

[xtina]

I'm not surprised by it, though. With the majority of the members familiar with the files it seems to be a conspiracy too far to assume that all the witnesses to Madeleine's presence have some ulterior motive for making a statement to the police verifying that fact; it just doesn't work for them.

Also we "both sides" do sometimes agree on things, it may be just that we shout louder when we disagree.

no one is saying....they have ulterior motives ....

just they could have assumed things that wasn't there....very easily done ...

statements are not always concrete evidence of something ....are they...doesn't always mean they have to be right ...only there recollection of things .....they think they saw ...or what actually happened...

[Alice Purjorick]

I'm not surprised by it, though. With the majority of the members familiar with the files it seems to be a conspiracy too far to assume that all the witnesses to Madeleine's presence have some ulterior motive for making a statement to the police verifying that fact; it just doesn't work for them.

Also we "both sides" do sometimes agree on things, it may be just that we shout louder when we disagree.

As I have posted to the point of tedium:
He blew it about half way through the first video with his comment to the effect that the cops were so dim they believed the last independent sighting was 17:30 on 3rd May 2007 then he went off on one about the high tea and photo conspiracies.

[ShiningInLuz]

There is no proof that Madeleine is dead.  And until I see some proof I shall go on hoping.

Fairly important point that.  For those who insist there is no proof that Madeleine was abducted, the reality is that there is no proof that M is dead.

So, a missing child, abducted or not, alive or not.

[jassi]

Fairly important point that.  For those who insist there is no proof that Madeleine was abducted, the reality is that there is no proof that M is dead.

So, a missing child, abducted or not, alive or not.

Not much progression for all the years of investigation, it would seem.

[xtina]

Not much progression for all the years of investigation, it would seem.

exactly ....still no proof ...either way......so anything could be possible

[Brietta]

So instead you say she is dead.   

If Sara Payne's son hadn't seen the white van,  there wouldn't have been any evidence Sarah Payne had been abducted,  apart from the fact that she was missing and there was no body.   The same with Ben Needham.

It is very seldom that the actual abduction of a child (or an adult) is witnessed as in Sarah Payne's case ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sarah_Payne  ... or in the case of Robert Black's intended victim in the Scottish Borders, which led to his apprehension ... http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/robert-black-one-wrong-turn-led-to-child-killer-being-caught-redhanded-34358943.html ... or when April Jones was seen getting into a vehicle ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22403116

Quite often the only 'proof' of abduction is that the child is missing.

The most extraordinary thing about Madeleine McCann's case may be that people like Richard Hall appear to be making a very good living from her disappearance without a blush.  All while trying to convince his target audience that she is dead.
Why would anyone do that?