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stephen25000

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1200 on: March 28, 2016, 10:31:45 AM »
Quote from: davel on March 28, 2016, 10:30:11 AM

a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation...

its libellous

Well, try proving that in court. 8)-)))
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1201 on: March 28, 2016, 10:33:31 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on March 28, 2016, 10:31:45 AM
Well, try proving that in court. 8)-)))

in a libel case the onus of proof is on the defendant...remember
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1202 on: March 28, 2016, 10:40:07 AM »
Quote from: davel on March 28, 2016, 10:33:31 AM
in a libel case the onus of proof is on the defendant...remember

Not even considering a defence of fair comment, mere insults or “vulgar abuse” are not defamatory.
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stephen25000

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1203 on: March 28, 2016, 10:44:31 AM »
Quote from: davel on March 28, 2016, 10:33:31 AM
in a libel case the onus of proof is on the defendant...remember

If you really believe anyone making that comment could be taken to court, then you are dreaming.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1204 on: March 28, 2016, 10:45:12 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on March 28, 2016, 10:44:31 AM
If you really believe anyone making that comment could be taken to court, then you are dreaming.

read back and you will see  I never mentioned court
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1205 on: March 28, 2016, 10:46:05 AM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on March 28, 2016, 10:40:07 AM
Not even considering a defence of fair comment, mere insults or “vulgar abuse” are not defamatory.

so if I referred to grime as a "shit dog handler" that would not be libellous and allowed to stand
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Offline jassi

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1206 on: March 28, 2016, 10:47:18 AM »
Might be better phrased as 'a dog shit handler'   @)(++(*
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1207 on: March 28, 2016, 10:50:18 AM »
Quote from: davel on March 28, 2016, 10:46:05 AM
so if I referred to grime as a "shit dog handler" that would not be libellous and allowed to stand

Ferryman has been allowed to call him lots of names and not been penalised afaik.
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stephen25000

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1208 on: March 28, 2016, 10:53:20 AM »
Quote from: jassi on March 28, 2016, 10:47:18 AM
Might be better phrased as 'a dog shit handler'   @)(++(*

Nice one Jassi. 8((()*/
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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1209 on: March 28, 2016, 10:53:37 AM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on March 28, 2016, 10:40:07 AM
Not even considering a defence of fair comment, mere insults or “vulgar abuse” are not defamatory.

The defence of 'fair comment' should emphatically not be considered.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1210 on: March 28, 2016, 10:54:28 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 28, 2016, 10:50:18 AM
Ferryman has been allowed to call him lots of names and not been penalised afaik.

I'm glad you accept a level playing field...lets see if the mods do
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1211 on: March 28, 2016, 10:54:33 AM »
Quote from: davel on March 28, 2016, 10:46:05 AM
so if I referred to grime as a "shit dog handler" that would not be libellous and allowed to stand

As that is profession, you would be on dodgy ground.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1212 on: March 28, 2016, 10:55:42 AM »
Quote from: ferryman on March 28, 2016, 10:53:37 AM
The defence of 'fair comment' should emphatically not be considered.

Why?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1213 on: March 28, 2016, 10:56:45 AM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on March 28, 2016, 10:40:07 AM
Not even considering a defence of fair comment, mere insults or “vulgar abuse” are not defamatory.

do you understand the rules on fair comment...that would not be  a defence in this case
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stephen25000

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1214 on: March 28, 2016, 10:58:12 AM »
Quote from: ferryman on March 28, 2016, 10:53:37 AM
The defence of 'fair comment' should emphatically not be considered.

Why ?

I can imagine many football supporters go yo a match, watch a member of the team, or team playing badly, and calling them a shit player or team.

Is that libelous ?
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