"they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did" claim.

[Carana]

Now, let's start again with the questions I asked of you earlier.

You have yet to respond.

Try reading my earlier posts.

You wouldn't be deflecting by any chance?

[slartibartfast]

So you'd only accept the impossible then, thanks.

This is to do with the title of the thread. There are no witnesses to the checks and we have to either believe or disbelieve the supposed checker.

[carlymichelle]

This is to do with the title of the thread. There are no witnesses to the checks and we have to either believe or disbelieve the supposed checker.

exactly its he said   etc theres no evidence at  all

[Alfred R Jones]

This is to do with the title of the thread. There are no witnesses to the checks and we have to either believe or disbelieve the supposed checker.

When the waiters saw very members of the mcCann group vacating the table what other activities apart from checking their kids do you suppose they may have been engaged in?

[G-Unit]

When the waiters saw very members of the mcCann group vacating the table what other activities apart from checking their kids do you suppose they may have been engaged in?

If one of them did go missing for 30 minutes what do you think he was doing?

[carlymichelle]

If one of them did go missing for 30 minutes what do you think he was doing?

alot can happen in 30  minutes

[Alfred R Jones]

If one of them did go missing for 30 minutes what do you think he was doing?

What he said he was doing, something which was in part verified by an independent witness.  but perhaps you could answer the question I posed earlier instead of deflecting.

[Alfred R Jones]

This is to do with the title of the thread. There are no witnesses to the checks and we have to either believe or disbelieve the supposed checker.

If there were no witnesses then there is no proof.  If there is no proof then how the hell can the PT AG claim that the McCanns were not checking on the kids as often as they said?  What has he based this statement on, and more to the point why do some people see this part of the Archiving Report as proof that the McCanns are liars?  Perhaps you could attempt to give me a some honest and straight answers to this.

[pathfinder73]

It must be mainly based on Mrs Fenn's account of their daughter crying for over an hour on TUE. It only stopped when the parents returned close to midnight. They were also late back on WED when Kate said she slept in the kids bedroom. If they arrived at the tapas at 8:30 and left at midnight that would be 6 checks in total every 30 minutes.

[misty]

It must be mainly based on Mrs Fenn's account of their daughter crying for over an hour on TUE. It only stopped when the parents returned close to midnight. They were also late back on WED when Kate said she slept in the kids bedroom. If they arrived at the tapas at 8:30 and left at midnight that would be 6 checks in total every 30 minutes.

The PJ could have asked Mrs Fenn if she heard the patio doors opening/closing at any other time during that week in order to help verify the frequency of the checks. I wonder why they failed to ask that question if they suspected the parents were lying? She wasn't interviewed until after cadaver dogs had alerted so why weren't they trying properly to build a case?

[pathfinder73]

The PJ could have asked Mrs Fenn if she heard the patio doors opening/closing at any other time during that week in order to help verify the frequency of the checks. I wonder why they failed to ask that question if they suspected the parents were lying? She wasn't interviewed until after cadaver dogs had alerted so why weren't they trying properly to build a case?

At the beginning, first and foremost they are trying to find Madeleine not investigating if they were checking that week as regular as they claimed. As you say that all changed when the dogs arrived and they start looking closely at them and their claims.

[misty]

At the beginning, first and foremost they are trying to find Madeleine not investigating if they were checking that week as regular as they claimed. As you say that all changed when the dogs arrived and they start looking closely at them and their claims.

The PJ took Mrs Fenn's statement in August AFTER the cadaver dogs had been into 5a. Why do you suppose the PJ were so focussed on the crying that they omitted to ask Mrs Fenn how many times she had heard the patio door moving that week, bearing in mind she was familiar enough with the sound to state that the crying only stopped when the parent(s) returned via the patio door? The PJ had had the Tapas 9 timeline for 3 whole months & were already suspicious about the checking.

[pathfinder73]

The PJ took Mrs Fenn's statement in August AFTER the cadaver dogs had been into 5a. Why do you suppose the PJ were so focussed on the crying that they omitted to ask Mrs Fenn how many times she had heard the patio door moving that week, bearing in mind she was familiar enough with the sound to state that the crying only stopped when the parent(s) returned via the patio door? The PJ had had the Tapas 9 timeline for 3 whole months & were already suspicious about the checking.

They had crying for over an hour unchecked so every 30 minutes checking on their children to them was a lie regardless of other checks.

When asked if on the night of May 1, 2007 he went to have dinner at the Tapas with Kate, he says yes. As customary they would come and check on the children every half hour, usually alternating. They arrived at the Tapas around 20:30, and then went to the apartment every half hour, until they arrived back, at around 23:00, plus or minus 10 minutes. Occasionally one of the others in the group made the check, he does not remember if this happened on the 1st. It is not true that Madeleine had been crying that night for an hour and 15 minutes, because she was not alone all that time.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

[misty]

They had crying for over an hour unchecked so every 30 minutes checking on their children to them was a lie regardless of other checks.

When asked if on the night of May 1, 2007 he went to have dinner at the Tapas with Kate, he says yes. As customary they would come and check on the children every half hour, usually alternating. They arrived at the Tapas around 20:30, and then went to the apartment every half hour, until they arrived back, at around 23:00, plus or minus 10 minutes. Occasionally one of the others in the group made the check, he does not remember if this happened on the 1st. It is not true that Madeleine had been crying that night for an hour and 15 minutes, because she was not alone all that time.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

No point in us arguing, Pathfinder. Either the group of 9 were telling lies about the frequency of their checks or the memory of an elderly lady was unreliable 3 months down the line. What was inexcusable was the PJ's failure to take a full written statement from Mrs Fenn in the immediate aftermath.

[slartibartfast]

No point in us arguing, Pathfinder. Either the group of 9 were telling lies about the frequency of their checks or the memory of an elderly lady was unreliable 3 months down the line. What was inexcusable was the PJ's failure to take a full written statement from Mrs Fenn in the immediate aftermath.

You have to think about motives.