"they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did" claim.

[stephen25000]

You wouldn't be deflecting by any chance?

No Carana, that is what you were appearing to do ?

Now just to help you out, here are the questions I asked you, which you did not respond to.

' So  you think the McCann's told the truth about the checking system ?

Can you remind us of how many times on May the 3rd, either of them checked and/or viewed their children directly after going to wine and dine ?  '

[Alfred R Jones]

It must be mainly based on Mrs Fenn's account of their daughter crying for over an hour on TUE. It only stopped when the parents returned close to midnight. They were also late back on WED when Kate said she slept in the kids bedroom. If they arrived at the tapas at 8:30 and left at midnight that would be 6 checks in total every 30 minutes.

There is no proof of who was crying and only one person's word for the length of the crying, how does this constitute proof.

[Mr Gray]

Apart from Mrs Fenn.

Mrs Fenn is not proof

[Alfred R Jones]

Apart from Mrs Fenn.

so, in your opinion Mrs Fenn's statement is proof?  How do you work that one out when her testimony was never examined in a court of law?

[Carana]

No Carana, that is what you were appearing to do ?

Now just to help you out, here are the questions I asked you, which you did not respond to.

' So  you think the McCann's told the truth about the checking system ?

Can you remind us of how many times on May the 3rd, either of them checked and/or viewed their children directly after going to wine and dine ?  '

I have seen nothing to indicate that they were lying, no. As the PJ didn't seek to clarify it, there is no way of knowing whether Mrs Fenn heard one child or several at various points and from various apartments.

Now, back to my question:

In the meantime, have you found anything to substantiate this allegation from Amaral?


"...but on that night, between 9.30 and 10 p.m., someone curiously goes to check that apartment, almost every five minutes, leaving the rest unchecked."

[carlymichelle]

so, in your opinion Mrs Fenn's statement is proof that the McCanns are liars?  How do you work that one out when her testimony was never examined in a court of law?

well  kate   mcann admitted in that book of hers that she   swore at mrs fenn for trying to help

[Carana]

so, in your opinion Mrs Fenn's statement is proof that the McCanns are liars?  How do you work that one out when her testimony was never examined in a court of law?

Amaral didn't bother to get his boys to cross-check it. Perhaps he wasn't actually interested in finding out...

[Benice]

It must be mainly based on Mrs Fenn's account of their daughter crying for over an hour on TUE. It only stopped when the parents returned close to midnight. They were also late back on WED when Kate said she slept in the kids bedroom. If they arrived at the tapas at 8:30 and left at midnight that would be 6 checks in total every 30 minutes.

Incorrect.      It was the 2nd May not the 1st when they stayed out later than usual and returned around midnight.  On the 1st they returned around 11.00p.m give or take 10 mins - according to your own quote from GM in an earlier post.

[Alfred R Jones]

Apart from Mrs Fenn.

Going by your logic concerning your demands for proof of checks ie: a witness to the parents entering the apartment, then you should apply this same logic to Mrs Fenn.  Did she witness the McCann children crying?  No, she heard a child crying, two different things.

[stephen25000]

I have seen nothing to indicate that they were lying, no. As the PJ didn't seek to clarify it, there is no way of knowing whether Mrs Fenn heard one child or several at various points and from various apartments.

Now, back to my question:

In the meantime, have you found anything to substantiate this allegation from Amaral?


"...but on that night, between 9.30 and 10 p.m., someone curiously goes to check that apartment, almost every five minutes, leaving the rest unchecked."

I was referring to the mccanns claimed 'checks'.

Would you care to cite which of the group actually checked on their own or others children ?

[Benice]

If the times they gave -  showed it was impossible for them to be true - then SY's forensic analysis of the timelines would have revealed that.    Instead it showed the opposite - i.e. that there was clearly opportunity for an abduction to have taken place.

[stephen25000]

If the times they gave -  showed it was impossible for them to be true - then SY's forensic analysis of the timelines would have revealed that.    Instead it showed the opposite - i.e. that there was clearly opportunity for an abduction to have taken place.

Yet absolutely no forensic evidence of an abductor has been found.

As SY, there is no proof at all that the mccanns or the tapas group were interviewed by them.

[stephen25000]

From the Mail.

It seems to sum up certain attitudes.

' The group of nine were holidaying in Portugal and wanted to have a good time. As one of the doctors, Matthew Oldfield, was to recall: "We drank. So what! We were on holiday." '

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-474656/Madeleine-missing-hour-did-McCanns-check-children.html#ixzz3z08n7Z3q
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[carlymichelle]

From the Mail.

It seems to sum up certain attitudes.

' The group of nine were holidaying in Portugal and wanted to have a good time. As one of the doctors, Matthew Oldfield, was to recall: "We drank. So what! We were on holiday." '

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-474656/Madeleine-missing-hour-did-McCanns-check-children.html#ixzz3z08n7Z3q
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carana is denying it it  may not have been in the files  but it  was admitted  to

[Carana]

From the Mail.

It seems to sum up certain attitudes.

' The group of nine were holidaying in Portugal and wanted to have a good time. As one of the doctors, Matthew Oldfield, was to recall: "We drank. So what! We were on holiday." '

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-474656/Madeleine-missing-hour-did-McCanns-check-children.html#ixzz3z08n7Z3q
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I remember that. That was originally from the Sol journalist who didn't understand what was on the piece of paper that flew out of a window into her waiting hands, thus perpetuating one of the most enduring myths that they drank 14 bottles of wine.