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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Twist in case of missing two-year-old DeOrr Kunz Jr as parents named suspects
« Reply #240 on: November 14, 2017, 11:53:24 PM »
Here it is Misty

People Magazine Investigates premiere episode Lost in the Woods on Mon., Nov. 13, at 10 p.m. ET on Investigation Discovery.

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Twist in case of missing two-year-old DeOrr Kunz Jr as parents named suspects
« Reply #241 on: November 16, 2017, 01:42:27 PM »
Here it is Misty

People Magazine Investigates premiere episode Lost in the Woods on Mon., Nov. 13, at 10 p.m. ET on Investigation Discovery.


Thanks, P/F.

An update from Klein. Some of the comments under the article are quite interesting.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2017/11/private-investigator-philip-klein-withdraws-deorr-kunz-case/

NEDERLAND, Texas — Philip Klein and his private investigation firm KIC Texas have formally withdrawn from the DeOrr Kunz Jr. missing persons case.

Klein was originally hired by the Kunz family in early 2016 to investigate the disappearance of 2-year-old DeOrr.

The Idaho Falls toddler vanished in July 2015 while on a camping trip in Lemhi County with his parents, great-grandfather and a friend of his great-grandfather. There has been no sign of DeOrr since that day, and nobody has been charged in connection to his disappearance.

Klein was later fired by the family, but continued to investigate the case after being rehired by another unknown family member.

On Monday, Klein issued the following statement to the media about his reasons for the withdrawal. He declined to elaborate beyond the statement, saying “it speaks for itself.”

STATEMENT:


On Monday, November 13, 2017, KIC Texas provided formal notice to Steve Penner, Lemhi County Sheriff, that we would be withdrawing from the DeOrr Kunz case effective immediately. I would like to make the reasons for withdrawal very clear for the media and the general public:

We believe KIC Texas can no longer move this case forward. It is our firm belief that until truthfulness comes from the persons that we, as well as law enforcement, have named as suspects, there is nothing further to investigate. All evidence leads to the death of Deorr Kunz, Jr., we do not believe a kidnapping or animal attack occurred — and all evidence supports this finding.
We believe charges should be filed on the parents for child endangerment, at a minimum. We publicly ask the District Attorney of Lemhi County to strongly consider this charge.
We have recently become aware that Vernal DeOrr Kunz and his father Dennis Kunz have filed another lawsuit against our firm. This suit, as well as the misinformation campaign by certain social media trolls, appears to be a coordinated effort to impede the investigation. We are unable to continue our efforts in this case while simultaneously defending against a suit of this nature. As we have said: “The Truth Is The Ultimate Defense.”
We would like to publicly thank the citizens of Idaho for their open hearts and minds. We thank the businesses that offered us food, shelter and warm wishes. We thank the family members of Baby DeOrr who have pure and clean hearts, and have helped us understand the parent’s dysfunctional family dynamic.

We would also like to thank the many who we have interviewed. You are in great hands with Lemhi County Sheriff Penner, Bonneville County Sheriff, and the FBI. We believe Deorr Kunz, Jr. will be found one day.

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I will have to catch up on the fallout on Social Media later.

Offline misty

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6 short episodes & 4 vlogs.

A very interesting revelation about a blond hair, seen on the shovel which looked to Jessica like it had been recently used.



Offline kmoore1967

It almost sounds like all the other Missing 411 cases that David Paulides writes about.

Now here is something that happened in North Carolina back in 2005, I think. Two small boys were at their grandparents' trailer home in Stokes County. They were put to bed for a nap as usual the same time. Their dad was coming to pick them up later.

Somehow these two little boys, one aged 5 and the younger aged 3, managed to open a locked screen, climb out the window, fall to the ground and walk away. They were spotted walking along the road several miles away only wearing underwear and the person who was driving knew them and stopped to get them, but they walked without looking at the person down to the riverbank of the Dan River. The person reported this to the police and there was a county wide search for them. They were find several miles down the river, drowned.

That's also like that Tennessee boy who disappeared in the 1960s who had never been seen again.

It's very strange.


Offline misty

It almost sounds like all the other Missing 411 cases that David Paulides writes about.

Now here is something that happened in North Carolina back in 2005, I think. Two small boys were at their grandparents' trailer home in Stokes County. They were put to bed for a nap as usual the same time. Their dad was coming to pick them up later.

Somehow these two little boys, one aged 5 and the younger aged 3, managed to open a locked screen, climb out the window, fall to the ground and walk away. They were spotted walking along the road several miles away only wearing underwear and the person who was driving knew them and stopped to get them, but they walked without looking at the person down to the riverbank of the Dan River. The person reported this to the police and there was a county wide search for them. They were find several miles down the river, drowned.

That's also like that Tennessee boy who disappeared in the 1960s who had never been seen again.

It's very strange.

I guess it was somewhat "fortunate" for the parents of the 2 young boys that they were seen walking together towards the river or there may have been a miscarriage of justice there. Was it ever ascertained how they managed to leave their home by the method described?
Paulides has researched some interesting cases, particularly in Oregan & Crater Lake. Cody Sheehy & more notably Keith Parkins (age 2.5yrs) covered remarkable distances before eventually being found alive.
It is possible Deorr Jr did end up in the creek & was swept away, given that he appeared comfortable around water from family photos. However, the niggle of comments by others on SM about one of the group & his attitude regarding Deorr Jr's presence on the trip, coupled with his strange behaviour in the hours after the disappearance, remain.
I see that the family are trying to get NecroSearch involved. Possibly that may provide some answers.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Twist in case of missing two-year-old DeOrr Kunz Jr as parents named suspects
« Reply #245 on: November 30, 2018, 07:19:57 PM »
In 2016, Trace and Chance were asked by private investigators to help in the disappearance of two-year-old DeOrr Kunz Jr. Their search began in Idaho Falls and continued all along the path to Timber Creek Campsite where DeOrr was last seen. At the campsite, Chance picked up a scent.

"Chance did alert to an area right there within the campsite, so we checked. We took him out of it, the investigators stepped in. We dug that area up to see if there was any physical, tangible evidence that we could touch and feel and see. We didn't find any physical evidence, but what he is telling us, he indicated to us that there is human remain scent here."

The key, Trace reveals, is trying to figure out if the scent Chance hits on is related to the case or not. While they didn’t find any evidence that tied directly to the DeOrr Kunz case, Trace says she wasn’t able to fully rule it out either.

"I trust these dogs. Their nose is a lot better than me trying to think it through and using my mind to try and figure it out. It really is a team work effort. He doesn't do it by himself and I don't do it by myself. We really work together as a team."

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/investigations/little-man-lost/deorrs-mother-talks-about-accusations-against-her-little-man-lost-episode-6/277-524202931
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.