Why are some people so averse to parental involvement in this case

[mercury]

Its as if the heavens might come down if it were true
They just wont even contemplate the "idea"
That is being closed minded IMO


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[Jean-Pierre]

Its as if the heavens might come down if it were true
They just wont even contemplate the "idea"
That is being closed minded IMO

What on earth makes you think that most of those of us on this side of the fence have not considered all possibilities and in particular parental involvement.  And having considered it in the light of all of the evidence currently available have rejected it as a solution to the mystery. 

[Mr Gray]

Its as if the heavens might come down if it were true
They just wont even contemplate the "idea"
That is being closed minded IMO

Of course we have considered parental involvement...but like SY...based on the evidence  I believe the parents are not involved

[ferryman]

If compelling evidence of parental involvement were to come to light, I would hold up my hands and acknowledge that I had exercised the presumption of innocence wrongly.

Never any shame in that.

I am (personally) of the opinion that there is not the slightest chance of that happening, though ....

[G-Unit]

I would be interested to hear the evidence that people believe rules the parents out. I have seen a couple of comments by DCI Redwood used as 'evidence', but what else is there? Mostly I see things like 'I believe' 'I assume' 'Why would they' 'Mostly its opinion, not evidence imo.

[Mr Gray]

I would be interested to hear the evidence that people believe rules the parents out. I have seen a couple of comments by DCI Redwood used as 'evidence', but what else is there? Mostly I see things like 'I believe' 'I assume' 'Why would they' 'Mostly its opinion, not evidence imo.

I could post it and you would dismiss it....Redwood has said...based on the evidence the parents are not suspects so he agrees there is evidence and it does not point to the parents

[Alfred R Jones]

Its as if the heavens might come down if it were true
They just wont even contemplate the "idea"
That is being closed minded IMO


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If anyone can provide a plausible and logical theory of parental invovlement I would be very interested to hear it and am quite prepared to consider thepossibility.  Can you do so?  If so please PM your theory to me.

[Jean-Pierre]

I would be interested to hear the evidence that people believe rules the parents out. I have seen a couple of comments by DCI Redwood used as 'evidence', but what else is there? Mostly I see things like 'I believe' 'I assume' 'Why would they' 'Mostly its opinion, not evidence imo.

It does not work that way.  The principle of presumption of innocence exists in a legal and moral context for a very good reason. 

After some 9 years of various investigations nothing whatever has come to light which makes me suspect parental involvement in Madeleine mcanns disappearance,let alone proves it. 

All of the so called evidence against them can be traced back to myth and propaganda used by the coordinator to sensationalise his book and video and by the various elements of the press to flog more newspapers.  Had there been any 'proof' of parental involvement it would have been tested in court.  (Unless you happen to believe in 'political cover up')

[Brietta]

The Amaral investigation provided no evidence which implicated Madeleine's parents of involvement.

The Rebelo investigation likewise found no evidence either.

Scotland Yard have carried out a scoping exercise, leading to a review of all the evidence available which in turn led to the reopening of Madeleine's case.

The Policia Judiciaria did likewise and reopened Madeleine's case.

There is absolutely no evidence against Madeleine's parents  ... but both SY and the PJ have evidence pointing away from them which they have been pursuing since the case reopened in late 2013.
Both Portuguese and British police are investigating stranger abduction and are actively following the evidence which is to be hoped will lead to the actual perpetrator/s.

[ferryman]

I would be interested to hear the evidence that people believe rules the parents out. I have seen a couple of comments by DCI Redwood used as 'evidence', but what else is there? Mostly I see things like 'I believe' 'I assume' 'Why would they' 'Mostly its opinion, not evidence imo.

The mistake is that you need evidence of innocence.

You don't

You need evidence of guilt.

[G-Unit]

Thank you all for the replies. Although it's often said that the parents have been 'ruled out', not one person has suggested how that could have been done. I have to assume therefore that none of you can point to any evidence which  could have been used to rule the parents out.

All I have seen offered is no evidence of guilt. There is no evidence of abduction either. Talking of 'watchers' and 'windows of opportunity' and mentioning other crimes in the area is not evidence.

[carlymichelle]

Thank you all for the replies. Although it's often said that the parents have been 'ruled out', not one person has suggested how that could have been done. I have to assume therefore that none of you can point to any evidence which  could have been used to rule the parents out.

All I have seen offered is no evidence of guilt. There is no evidence of abduction either. Talking of 'watchers' and 'windows of opportunity' and mentioning other crimes in the area is not evidence.

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[Mr Gray]

Thank you all for the replies. Although it's often said that the parents have been 'ruled out', not one person has suggested how that could have been done. I have to assume therefore that none of you can point to any evidence which  could have been used to rule the parents out.

All I have seen offered is no evidence of guilt. There is no evidence of abduction either. Talking of 'watchers' and 'windows of opportunity' and mentioning other crimes in the area is not evidence.

You concede there is no evidence of guilt...

I would say your post gives a perfect answer to the question posed

[Jean-Pierre]

Thank you all for the replies. Although it's often said that the parents have been 'ruled out', not one person has suggested how that could have been done. I have to assume therefore that none of you can point to any evidence which  could have been used to rule the parents out.

All I have seen offered is no evidence of guilt. There is no evidence of abduction either. Talking of 'watchers' and 'windows of opportunity' and mentioning other crimes in the area is not evidence.

There has been no credible evidence to 'rule the parents in' so it baffles me how they can be 'ruled out'.  I take the seemingly old fashioned approach of presumption of innocence.  Which is the only possible approach in a civilised society

You may be be comfortable accusing Madeleine's parents of various levels of criminal activity on the basis if tabloid gossip and a pot boiler written to make cash for a failed investigator but I am not.

I have been around for long enough to 'never say never' so if you or any other sceptic can come up with a credible scenario where 'the McCanns dun it' then I may change my position.  But so far nobody has.

Nearly nine years down the line we are

[stephen25000]

There has been no credible evidence to 'rule the parents in' so it baffles me how they can be 'ruled out'.  I take the seemingly old fashioned approach of presumption of innocence.  Which is the only possible approach in a civilised society

You may be be comfortable accusing Madeleine's parents of various levels of criminal activity on the basis if tabloid gossip and a pot boiler written to make cash for a failed investigator but I am not.

I have been around for long enough to 'never say never' so if you or any other sceptic can come up with a credible scenario where 'the McCanns dun it' then I may change my position.  But so far nobody has.

Nearly nine years down the line we are

As far as the case is concerned, the mccanns remain the last known people to see Madeleine alive.

As to what happened to Madeleine, several theories remain on the table, neither proved or disproved.