Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[Alfred R Jones]

http://www.1itl.com/news/317/


The UK regulation of the use of polygraphs varies depending on the context. In the criminal justice system, polygraph tests are not admissible as evidence. However, such tests have been piloted and continued to be used in the UK for the management of sex offenders. Their use for such purposes is regulated by the Polygraph Rules 2009. Under these rules, the Secretary of State can require certain offenders released on licence to undergo polygraph testing to monitor compliance with the terms of a licence and to improve offender management.

a completely different kettle of poissons but thanks for sharing.

[Alfred R Jones]

Honours degree in science doesn't mean a lot unfortunately..... you were spoonfed information information...told what books and papers to read. It isn't until you move on from undergraduate level that you start to educate yourself...deciding which scientific papers are valid as evidence and which are not... I have no intention of revealing my professional background...too many clues and my identity may be easy to find...



you certainly have  a poor understanding of lie detectors for someone with such a background

Tony Bennett got a first in Geography from a highly respected university, what does that tell us about his mental capacity to evaluate?

[Alfred R Jones]

If the abduction is ruled out there are only two major possibilities...they must add up to close to a hundred...where is the fault in that logic...there isn't any

The one flaw in that argument is that abduction hasn't been ruled out, unlike the parents who have.

[ferryman]

The one flaw in that argument is that abduction hasn't been ruled out, unlike the parents who have.

Only one (flaw in the non-'argument'!) but I shan't chide your understatement, Alfred ....

[Mr Gray]

If the abduction is ruled out there are only two major possibilities...they must add up to close to a hundred...where is the fault in that logic...there isn't any

there isn't any...but abduction has not been ruled out...the parents have been told they are not suspects...again..if the parents are ruled out then abduction is odds on

[stephen25000]

There is no other option than abduction ....

Only in dream land ferryman.

[stephen25000]

The one flaw in that argument is that abduction hasn't been ruled out, unlike the parents who have.

Yet the actual crime, if any, is unknown.

and of course the parents kept changing their story, right from the start.

LOCKED then UNLOCKED.

Now which one is a LIE ?

Jemmied or not-jemmied.

Now we know the truth on that.

[Mr Gray]

Is it only when you move on from undergraduate level that you cease to be spoonfed information? What a pile of senseless, arrogant nonsense.

I happen to have a post graduate degree, also from a top university.  By your standards, I am now in the perfect position to pronounce ....

I don't think I can now pronounce what it is I can now pronounce and stick within the posting rules.

So let me try a milder version.

You haven't got a clue how probability theory works.

I happen to have an honours degree, and a post-graduate degree.  Neither of these makes me in any way or shape or form superior to any other member of this forum, just IMPO.  You seem to think differently.  If you think my degree and my post-graduate degree actually elevates my status on this forum, make your case.  Otherwise, kindly stop rattling empty cans, as the noise is very loud.

If your reason for not identifying your professional background is aka The Divinci Code, then fine.  OK by me.  Not a problem.  BUT STOP BANGING ON ABOUT YOUR PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND.

I'm surprised that someone with your background does not understand how unreliable lie detectors are....you should look at the evidence...but you seem to want to ignore it...very scientific.
We have discussed them at length on this forum and some interesting points came up. A cool calm calculating person can train to beat a lie detector making them close to 100% unreliable in that case...a nervous distressed person can give a false positive in many cases...I don't have figures but 60% unreliable would be reasonable...

so as others have asked....what value is their in Kate taking such a test

[Mr Gray]

Yet the actual crime, if any, is unknown.

and of course the parents kept changing their story, right from the start.

LOCKED then UNLOCKED.

Now which one is a LIE ?

the parents have been told they are not suspects and are therefore ruled out...fact

[stephen25000]

As to the locked or unlocked, which is the truth ?

Now they 'locked' the apartment during the day.

gerry mccann claims 'nothing of value was taken', which takes out burglary.

So what is the truth ???

Now there's a question....................

[Mr Gray]

As to the locked or unlocked, which is the truth ?

Now they 'locked' the apartment during the day.

gerry mccann claims 'nothing of value was taken', which takes out burglary.

So what is the truth ???

Now there's a question....................

obviously it has been answered to the satisfaction of SY....is taht the best you have to infer they are implicated...quite pathetic

[ShiningInLuz]

I'm surprised that someone with your background does not understand how unreliable lie detectors are....you should look at the evidence...but you seem to want to ignore it...very scientific.
We have discussed them at length on this forum and some interesting points came up. A cool calm calculating person can train to beat a lie detector making them close to 100% unreliable in that case...a nervous distressed person can give a false positive in many cases...I don't have figures but 60% unreliable would be reasonable...

so as others have asked....what value is their in Kate taking such a test

Again, not worth the effort of typing or reading.

Do you link to said discussion - no.

Do you assert something without supporting evidence - yes.

Is your post worthy of a considered reply - no.

[G-Unit]

Tony Bennett got a first in Geography from a highly respected university, what does that tell us about his mental capacity to evaluate?

I don't agree with everything TB says and does, but his knowledge of this case is impressive. You may not agree with his conclusions, but he has done the research.

[Mr Gray]

Again, not worth the effort of typing or reading.

Do you link to said discussion - no.

Do you assert something without supporting evidence - yes.

Is your post worthy of a considered reply - no.

So still avoiding the lie detector test question
Your idea is totally ridiculous as several posters have confirmed

[G-Unit]

So still avoiding the lie detector test question
Your idea is totally ridiculous as several posters have confirmed

Do I remember a discussion where the McCanns said they would take one and then didn't? Did Gerry decide they were incredibly unreliable, I wonder?

McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Of course they are not going to take the test. It's inadmissible in Portugal and there are doubts about the accuracy.
"Gerry and Kate don't need to do one as they are telling the truth."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-494765/Now-Kate-McCann-refuses-lie-detector-test-clear-name.html#ixzz40EFYQH47
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