Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292067 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2016, 10:46:00 PM »
For some curious reason, idle speculation (that denigrates the McCanns or anyone who supports them) is allowed.

Meanwhile, hard facts (about a certain dog-handler) tend to incur sin-bin points, and posts (of hard fact) removed.

All by the same moderator.

Curious way to run a board ....

Rubbish.

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2016, 10:48:23 PM »
Martin Smith has changed his opinion.

He no longer believes he saw Gerry McCann.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2016, 10:48:49 PM »
I have stated a fact.

That you seem not to like very much ....

You stated something from a newspaper. Not a fact, no source quoted. Newspapers don't always get it right, did you know that?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2016, 10:50:18 PM »
The police use a software programme called  Efit-V and then they use Adobe Photoshop to add features such as ageing lines etc. They begin by choosing a face shape from nine possibles, then a hairstyle. Other features follow. I don't know if Oakley would have had access to such a computer system.
http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/west-yorkshire-police-e-fit-9064751
Do you have any thoughts on why the two e-fits appear to have been constructed by two entirely different methods (one like a diagram/carton, the other like a photo composite)?
What's up, old man?

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2016, 10:52:23 PM »
You stated something from a newspaper. Not a fact, no source quoted. Newspapers don't always get it right, did you know that?

Do you prefer idle speculation that Martin Smith was coerced into producing the efit?

stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2016, 10:53:53 PM »
Martin Smith has changed his opinion.

He no longer believes he saw Gerry McCann.

Where is your proof ?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2016, 10:54:18 PM »
Martin Smith has changed his opinion.

He no longer believes he saw Gerry McCann.

Cite or withdraw.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2016, 11:15:31 PM »
Cite or withdraw.

Provide something more solid than idle (indeed defamatory) speculation about why Martin Smith might have produced an e-fit of a man he believed was Gerry (or, for that matter, why his wife would have done the same)

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2016, 11:20:08 PM »
Cite or withdraw.

just made a screenshot of that

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2016, 11:26:45 PM »
Provide something more solid than idle (indeed defamatory) speculation about why Martin Smith might have produced an e-fit of a man he believed was Gerry (or, for that matter, why his wife would have done the same)

It would appear Martin Smith was one of the individuals who participated in the construction of the Oakley efits. Martin Smith claimed that he was 60-80% sure that the man he saw that night was Gerry and he has never publicly wavered from that opinion, in fact in a direct quote from the Mirror he actually said that nothing had changed from the time he had first talked to the police. Now we can speculate as much as we like as to why he constructed the efits if he believed them to be Gerry McCann but that's all it will ever be, speculation.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2016, 11:29:00 PM »
It would appear Martin Smith was one of the individuals who participated in the construction of the Oakley efits. Martin Smith claimed that he was 60-80% sure that the man he saw that night was Gerry and he has never publicly wavered from that opinion, in fact in a direct quote from the Mirror he actually said that nothing had changed from the time he had first talked to the police. Now we can speculate as much as we like as to why he constructed the efits if he believed them to be Gerry McCann but that's all it will ever be, speculation.
How come a direct quote in the Mirror is to be believed, but direct quotes and photos of documents from the police files  in the Telegraph are to be doubted?

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2016, 11:30:15 PM »
It would appear Martin Smith was one of the individuals who participated in the construction of the Oakley efits. Martin Smith claimed that he was 60-80% sure that the man he saw that night was Gerry and he has never publicly wavered from that opinion, in fact in a direct quote from the Mirror he actually said that nothing had changed from the time he had first talked to the police. Now we can speculate as much as we like as to why he constructed the efits if he believed them to be Gerry McCann but that's all it will ever be, speculation.

Wrong again.

Martin Smith no longer believes he saw Gerry, as is self-evident from the fact that he produced an efit of the man he saw ...

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #72 on: February 21, 2016, 11:35:02 PM »
That Martin Smith might have been coerced into producing an efit is idle  (indeed defamatory!) speculation.

That he changed his mind (about the man being Gerry) and acknowledged that he had been mistaken (in that belief) following publication of the files is opinion based on both fact and common sense.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2016, 11:39:02 PM »
That Martin Smith might have been coerced into producing an efit is idle speculation.

That he changed his mind (about the man being Gerry) and acknowledged that he had been mistaken (in that belief) following publication of the files is opinion based on both fact and common sense.

Probably read Mr McCluskey's addition to his statement as a result of watching a news programme showing the McCann family disembarking from a plane ... and thought ... hmmm??
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2016, 11:53:24 PM »
Wrong again.

Martin Smith no longer believes he saw Gerry, as is self-evident from the fact that he produced an efit of the man he saw ...

No ferryman that is simply what you're reading into a set of actions.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?