Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?

[sadie]

I was being facetious, Pegasus.  I am so tired of hearing of how much the McCanns and friends drank.

And the accusations are all myths , made up stuff.

No evidence of heavy drinking at all.

[Eleanor]

And the accusations are all myths , made up stuff.

No evidence of heavy drinking at all.

No, there isn't.  Never was.  It is all so silly.  An hour and a half and absolutely no chance of being drunk on four bottles of wine between nine of them.

[pegasus]

(snip) assuming that they were 4 different wines ... Not one bottle had been finished! (snip)

There were only two choices of free wine "tinto" and "branco"

[Eleanor]

There were only two choices of free wine "tinto" and "branco"

Wot?  No Rose?  Good heavens.

[Alfred R Jones]

No it isn't. A wife may not be involved in her husband's nefarious activities but wouldn't be considered independent.

were all seven married to Gerry also? 

[jassi]

Wot?  No Rose?  Good heavens.

I thought you just mixed half and half if you wanted that level of sophistication. 

[faithlilly]

were all seven married to Gerry also?

From spencerssolicitors.com :

"What does 'Independent Witness' mean?
A witness is a term used to refer to someone who is not directly involved in a situation, but who sees with their own eyes what happened or is currently happening.

An independent witness means that the person seeing the situation does not know any of the parties involved.

If there is a dispute over the facts of an accident or assault, independent witness evidence can be crucial to the parties and the court to help them to get to the bottom of what actually happened. Often the people directly involved cannot remember all of the detail as they were wrapped up in dealing with the incident itself.

An independent witness can give clarity and an unbiased viewpoint"

[Carana]

From spencerssolicitors.com :

"What does 'Independent Witness' mean?
A witness is a term used to refer to someone who is not directly involved in a situation, but who sees with their own eyes what happened or is currently happening.

An independent witness means that the person seeing the situation does not know any of the parties involved.

If there is a dispute over the facts of an accident or assault, independent witness evidence can be crucial to the parties and the court to help them to get to the bottom of what actually happened. Often the people directly involved cannot remember all of the detail as they were wrapped up in dealing with the incident itself.

An independent witness can give clarity and an unbiased viewpoint"

Who would be "independent witnesses" in this case, if the criterion is someone who "didn't know any of the parties involved"?

Does that apply to the Tapas staff? The nannies? Anyone who'd taken part in sports activities? Anyone who'd chatted to any of the T9 at some point? Jez?

[faithlilly]

Who would be "independent witnesses" in this case, if the criterion is someone who "didn't know any of the parties involved"?

Does that apply to the Tapas staff? The nannies? Anyone who'd taken part in sports activities? Anyone who'd chatted to any of the T9 at some point? Jez?

Who 'independent witnesses' wouldn't be is close friends of the McCanns and it would seem that no one else actually puts Gerry in the Tapas bar at the time of the Smith sighting.

[Brietta]

Who would be "independent witnesses" in this case, if the criterion is someone who "didn't know any of the parties involved"?

Does that apply to the Tapas staff? The nannies? Anyone who'd taken part in sports activities? Anyone who'd chatted to any of the T9 at some point? Jez?

Mr Smith?  who knew Mr Murat not well, but well enough to dismiss him as the person he saw.

[jassi]

Probably, unless it could be demonstrated that in fact they were bosom pals

[Alfred R Jones]

From spencerssolicitors.com :

"What does 'Independent Witness' mean?
A witness is a term used to refer to someone who is not directly involved in a situation, but who sees with their own eyes what happened or is currently happening.

An independent witness means that the person seeing the situation does not know any of the parties involved.

If there is a dispute over the facts of an accident or assault, independent witness evidence can be crucial to the parties and the court to help them to get to the bottom of what actually happened. Often the people directly involved cannot remember all of the detail as they were wrapped up in dealing with the incident itself.

An independent witness can give clarity and an unbiased viewpoint"

On that basis kindly list all the independent witnesses from that evening.

[pegasus]

Wot?  No Rose?  Good heavens.

At tapas evening 3rd May only two types of free wine were served and they were tinto (red) and branco (white).

[Carana]

Who 'independent witnesses' wouldn't be is close friends of the McCanns and it would seem that no one else actually puts Gerry in the Tapas bar at the time of the Smith sighting.

Not according to the definition that you cited:

"An independent witness means that the person seeing the situation does not know any of the parties involved."

Hence my question.

[G-Unit]

On that basis kindly list all the independent witnesses from that evening.

I have previously given you six independent witnesses who put the whole group away from the Tapas at the time of the Smith sighting.