Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292071 times)

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ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #585 on: March 07, 2016, 08:54:51 PM »
You made a claim ferryman, a claim you have yet to provide one scintilla of proof for. Can you provide proof ?

Your inability (or, more likely, refusal) to accept the obvious and logical conclusion that Martin Smith would not produce an efit of a man he thought was Gerry (and neither his wife) is your problem, not mine.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #586 on: March 07, 2016, 09:00:42 PM »
I'll leave you to work that out for yourself Homer or are you the one with the little yellow head like a paper bag?
If I were Homer I would have written d'oh! but as I'm not I didn't, and I have worked it out, thanks.

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #587 on: March 07, 2016, 09:09:48 PM »
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html
Local family may have seen missing Maddy, 06 June 2007
    
Local family may have seen missing Maddy Drogheda Independent

By Angela McCormick
Wednesday June 06 2007

Not a PJ leak for a change then.
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #588 on: March 07, 2016, 09:21:02 PM »
Not a PJ leak for a change then.

I wouldn't bank on it.
How did the reporter know the Smiths had given statements to the Portuguese police? According to Amaral. the 3 family members  were secretly flown over.

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #589 on: March 07, 2016, 09:45:26 PM »
Your inability (or, more likely, refusal) to accept the obvious and logical conclusion that Martin Smith would not produce an efit of a man he thought was Gerry (and neither his wife) is your problem, not mine.

Do you understand the process of producing an e-fit? The features are chosen (eyes, hair, ears, nose, mouth) from templates and then assembled into a complete face. So the witness may not see the whole face until the end of the process.
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ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #590 on: March 07, 2016, 09:48:47 PM »
Do you understand the process of producing an e-fit? The features are chosen (eyes, hair, ears, nose, mouth) from templates and then assembled into a complete face. So the witness may not see the whole face until the end of the process.

What does that have to do with the question of whether Martin Smith has changed his opinion?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #591 on: March 07, 2016, 10:03:17 PM »
What does that have to do with the question of whether Martin Smith has changed his opinion?

You said he wouldn't produce an e-fit of Gerry McCann, but it may not have looked like that until it was finished. Think of it as a jigsaw without a picture to work from, you see the complete picture only at the end.
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #592 on: March 07, 2016, 10:04:57 PM »
How many in seaside resorts?

The Met solved a case of illicit transportation by a pedestrian in Brighton is that a seaside resort?
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #593 on: March 07, 2016, 10:11:59 PM »
If I were Homer I would have written d'oh! but as I'm not I didn't, and I have worked it out, thanks.

Well I did have you down being more sort of I.R.  8(0(*
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #594 on: March 07, 2016, 10:15:30 PM »
Your inability (or, more likely, refusal) to accept the obvious and logical conclusion that Martin Smith would not produce an efit of a man he thought was Gerry (and neither his wife) is your problem, not mine.
I agree with Ferryman, the 2 efits are not by M and M Smith

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #595 on: March 07, 2016, 10:18:35 PM »
You said he wouldn't produce an e-fit of Gerry McCann, but it may not have looked like that until it was finished. Think of it as a jigsaw without a picture to work from, you see the complete picture only at the end.

Martin Smith (initially) formed an impression that he may have seen Gerry long before efits were even entertained.

Then he was approached by Brian Kennedy (and invited to produce an efit) but refused (because he believed he had seen Gerry).

The only, conceivable, reason why he (then) changed his mind (and agreed to produce an efit) is because events (and the course of the enquiry, which he no doubt followed closely) persuaded him he was mistaken.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #596 on: March 07, 2016, 10:20:36 PM »
Well I did have you down being more sort of I.R.  8(0(*
if that 's meant to be a put down I'm afraid I'm too dumb to get it, soz la!

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #597 on: March 07, 2016, 10:22:02 PM »
I agree with Ferryman, the 2 efits are not by M and M Smith

We are not quite in agreement, because I think they did produce the efits after (both) being persuaded that they were mistaken (in their initial impressions!) that the man might be Gerry; and with the intention of assisting efforts to establish the identity of the man the Smiths all saw ....

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #598 on: March 07, 2016, 10:24:46 PM »
We are not quite in agreement, because I think they did produce the efits after (both) being persuaded that they were mistaken (in their initial impressions!) that the man might be Gerry; and with the intention of assisting efforts to establish the identity of the man the Smiths all saw ....
Ok Ferryman I understand now.
Do you think both efits are of the same man?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #599 on: March 07, 2016, 10:26:31 PM »
We are not quite in agreement, because I think they did produce the efits after (both) being persuaded that they were mistaken (in their initial impressions!) that the man might be Gerry; and with the intention of assisting efforts to establish the identity of the man the Smiths all saw ....

Who 'persuaded' them?
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