Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 313748 times)

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Offline Brietta

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #600 on: March 07, 2016, 10:29:23 PM »
Ok Ferryman I understand now.
Do you think both efits are of the same man?





            Just a thought.

Martin Smith categorically  exonerated Robert Murat as the carrier of the child he and his family had passed in the street and was able to do so despite having only a slight acquaintance.

**snip
— States that it is not possible for him to recognise the individual in person or by photograph.
— Adds that in May and August of 2006, he saw ROBERT MURAT in Praia da Luz bars. On one of these occasions, the first, he was inebriated and spoke to everyone. He did not wear glasses at that time. He also states that the individual who carried the child was not ROBERT. He would have recognised him immediately.

PJ Files

From May to September of 2007 he was exposed to blanket coverage of the McCann family in video footage and still images in print media.

Then Shock Horror! Madeleine's parents are made arguidos.

Is there any wonder that on seeing Madeleine's father carrying Sean his subconscious went into overdrive.  Exactly the same phenomenon happened with Mr McCluskey, who no doubt discovered his error when the files were released. 

Perhaps it just took Mr Smith a little longer to work it out.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #601 on: March 07, 2016, 10:33:47 PM »
Ok Ferryman I understand now.
Do you think both efits are of the same man?

I think they are of the same man, but produced from human recollection of a face, and human recollections and perceptions, one person from another, of identical events or identical images, will always be markedly different (the necessary limitation of human recollection of anything, from an image to a sequence of events).

That is why (for example) accounts (of the identical sequence of events) of evening May 3rd will differ from person to another.

It has nothing to do with deceit; all to do with fallible memory-recall.

I think the fundamental point remains that Martin Smith would not have produced an efit of a man he thought was Gerry.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #602 on: March 07, 2016, 10:34:57 PM »
If MS knew he didn't have a beard, moustache or glasses then of course he saw his face in the dark.

"Regarding the description of the individual who carried the child he states that: he was Caucasian, around 175 to 180m in height. He appeared to be about 35/40 years old. He had an average build, a bit on the thin side. His hair was short, in a basic male cut, brown in colour. He cannot state if it was dark or lighter in tone. He did not wear glasses and had no beard or moustache. He did not notice any other relevant details partly due to the fact that the lighting was not very good."
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #603 on: March 07, 2016, 10:35:47 PM »
Who 'persuaded' them?

Who?

Revelation of the facts of the case, and the utter absurdity of assumption of McCann-guilt (especially based on the reactions of the dogs).

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #604 on: March 07, 2016, 10:46:46 PM »
Who?

Revelation of the facts of the case, and the utter absurdity of assumption of McCann-guilt (especially based on the reactions of the dogs).

When were the e -fits produced and by whom?
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #605 on: March 07, 2016, 10:48:41 PM »
When were the e -fits produced and by whom?

By the Smiths

After the end of January 2008.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #606 on: March 07, 2016, 10:54:57 PM »
By the Smiths

After the end of January 2008.

The Smiths and who else? Who produced the e-fits from their descriptions?
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #607 on: March 07, 2016, 10:55:53 PM »
The Smiths and who else? Who produced the e-fits from their descriptions?

The private investigators.

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #608 on: March 07, 2016, 10:56:48 PM »
By the Smiths

After the end of January 2008.
Why were the 2 efits produced by 2 different technologies?

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #609 on: March 07, 2016, 11:02:11 PM »
Why were the 2 efits produced by 2 different technologies?

Where do you get the information about technologies from?

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #610 on: March 07, 2016, 11:07:21 PM »
Why were the 2 efits produced by 2 different technologies?

Maybe the PI's used EvoFIT to produce one - it was a new technology being introduced in 2008.

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #611 on: March 07, 2016, 11:09:20 PM »
Where does information come about what technology was used?

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #612 on: March 07, 2016, 11:12:18 PM »
Where does information come about what technology was used?
From looking closely at the 2 efits

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #613 on: March 07, 2016, 11:19:56 PM »
From looking closely at the 2 efits

Why does the technology used have a bearing on whether Martin Smith changed his mind (about the man being Gerry, or not being Gerry)?

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #614 on: March 07, 2016, 11:26:16 PM »
Why does the technology used have a bearing on whether Martin Smith changed his mind (about the man being Gerry, or not being Gerry)?
2 diferent efit technologies means 2 efits done at different times probably by different PI subcontractors so it is unlikely they done by M and M Smith because then they would be same technology