Loving parents who have covered up the accidental death of a child

[Lace]

So there are never cover ups of accidents and/or crimes ?

Wow.

Did I say that?

I said loving parents who go out to dinner afterwards and laugh and joke normally as if nothing has happened,  they just wouldn't be able to do it,  and then when they find their child gone put on an act worthy of a bafta award.

[stephen25000]

Did I say that?

I said loving parents who go out to dinner afterwards and laugh and joke normally as if nothing has happened,  they just wouldn't be able to do it,  and then when they find their child gone put on an act worthy of a bafta award.

That is your belief.

No more and certainly no less.

It does not mean people won't cover up an accident.

After all, doctors have to be able to deal with accidents and be dispassionate.

[Lace]

That is your belief.

No more and certainly no less.

It does not mean people won't cover up an accident.

After all, doctors have to be able to deal with accidents and be dispassionate.

Not accidents that involve their own child!!!

[stephen25000]

Not accidents that involve their own child!!!

Remind me of what doctors are trained to do ?

[Lace]

Remind me of what doctors are trained to do ?

What ever they are trained to do,   it is different when it is your own child.

[stephen25000]

What ever they are trained to do,   it is different when it is your own child.

That is your belief.

So how would a doctor then deal with an emergency with their own child, with a life threatening condition, if no other doctor was available ?

Would they just stand there ?

[Alfred R Jones]

heres one right here in the us said  it was the babysitter!!!




http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6953798/Two-year-old-killed-in-house-fire-after-mum-left-her-home-alone-to-work-as-a-stripper.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160225-_-News-_-377264722-_-Imageandlink   

Tragic two-year-old girl killed in house fire after mum left her home alone while she went to work as a stripper
Distraught mum tries to blame babysitter before tearful confession



A TWO-YEAR-OLD girl was killed in a house fire when she was left alone by her mother, who was out working as a stripper.

The terrified little girl hid under her bed as the flat was consumed in flames — and firefighters didn’t even know she was there after they doused the blaze at 7:30 a.m on Tuesday.

They discovered little Kalenah Muldrow’s body only when her 20-year-old mother, Leila Aquino, returned home and notified police that her baby had been upstairs, sources said.

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Firefighters had no idea toddler was trapped inside burning building Gregory P. Mango / New York Post

“The mother was distraught. She came up, she saw the fire and she said she didn’t know where her baby was,” said a neighbour, Lisette Smith.

“She went into the building. She said, ‘Where’s my baby? I just want to find my baby.’”

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Leila Aquino told officers she left her daughter with a babysitter Instagram
When Aquino arrived home to find the tragic scene, she was carrying a box that contained $980 — all in $1 bills, tips she had earned from her night of dancing at a gentleman’s club, sources said.

When she learned that her child was dead, Aquino collapsed to the ground in tears.

She initially told police she had left the girl with a babysitter and went out, sources said.

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But the babysitter denied that claim, saying, in fact, that she had stopped working for Aquino earlier this month because the pole-dancing mom owed her money.

When confronted with the conflicting information, Aquino broke down and admitted she had been working at a strip bar overnight, sources said.

She was questioned at a police station near her home in Brooklyn, New York, on Tuesday night where she was charged with reckless endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child.

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Tragic Kalenah's body was found after firefighters put out the blaze Instagram
The Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office is already investigating the case.

Some people outraged by the incident left messages on Aquino’s social-media page.

“I’m trying to understand why would u leave a two year old home alone,” Tonya Houston wrote.

“Do you not have a conscious? RIP baby girl.”

Fire officials suspect the blaze started because of a portable heater that was left on in the apartment.

Not much of a cover up was it?  A lame attempt at shifting the blame to someone else for a very short period, but OK thanks for that.

[Alice Purjorick]

Not much of a cover up was it?  A lame attempt at shifting the blame to someone else for a very short period, but OK thanks for that.

Tell you what Alf. Write out a full spec of what it is you expect posters to provide an example of and we will see what we can do. This thread is clearly going down the line of "Ah yes but not quite right".
Always of course being cognisant of the fact that whether there is or is not an example it will not prove much.
Unless of course you believe the demonstrably erroneous theory of "if it hasn't happened before it can't happen".
 

[G-Unit]

Did I say that?

I said loving parents who go out to dinner afterwards and laugh and joke normally as if nothing has happened,  they just wouldn't be able to do it,  and then when they find their child gone put on an act worthy of a bafta award.

In my life I have met many couples whose marriages have seemed rock solid. They seemed completely happy and loving, and then they split up and it turned out they had hidden all their problems and put on an award winning act in public. You can't take things at face value because you have no idea what is happening in private.

If you read the statements the couple seemed pretty preoccupied before and during the Tapas meal. Gerry knew nothing about Russell being absent, Jane going to relieve him, Russell coming back and having his meal redone. He thought he was sitting facing the apartment but he had his back to it. Kate doesn't remember Russell going to check with Matthew at 9.30pm. She doesn't know if she had a shower at 6.40pm or a bath after 7pm. she doesn't remember sitting next to Jane. Neither of them mentioned the sailing 'accident' when Matthew fell off the catamaran, which was a well known topic of conversation at the table.

[G-Unit]

What ever they are trained to do,   it is different when it is your own child.

There are two ways to look at this.

1, Doctors are too emotionally involved and may make the wrong decisions when treated loved ones.
2. Treating a loved one is OK because the doctor will go all out for a patient they care about.

The GMC accepts that it's OK in an emergency situation.

In reality some doctors will be able to respond adequately in an emergency situation involving a family member, others may not. I don't suppose they know themselves unless and until it happens, so no-one else can pretend to know either.

[Carana]

In my life I have met many couples whose marriages have seemed rock solid. They seemed completely happy and loving, and then they split up and it turned out they had hidden all their problems and put on an award winning act in public. You can't take things at face value because you have no idea what is happening in private.

(snip)

Yes, of course there are people who appear happy in public and keep the lid on whatever is happening in private.
However, this is one of the most publicly scrutinised couples in recent times, with the media willing to pay large sums of money for any kind of "scoop" and armchair detectives from certain quarters examining any and every microscopic detail to somehow bolster the notion that they are somehow complicit in Madeleine's disappearance.

After nearly 9 years of such scrutiny, what 'dark secrets' could they possibly have had that wouldn't have been splashed all over the Internet?

[Carana]

There are two ways to look at this.

1, Doctors are too emotionally involved and may make the wrong decisions when treated loved ones.
2. Treating a loved one is OK because the doctor will go all out for a patient they care about.

The GMC accepts that it's OK in an emergency situation.

In reality some doctors will be able to respond adequately in an emergency situation involving a family member, others may not. I don't suppose they know themselves unless and until it happens, so no-one else can pretend to know either.

There were other doctors in the group they could have shouted to for help if necessary.

[G-Unit]

Yes, of course there are people who appear happy in public and keep the lid on whatever is happening in private.
However, this is one of the most publicly scrutinised couples in recent times, with the media willing to pay large sums of money for any kind of "scoop" and armchair detectives from certain quarters examining any and every microscopic detail to somehow bolster the notion that they are somehow complicit in Madeleine's disappearance.

After nearly 9 years of such scrutiny, what 'dark secrets' could they possibly have had that wouldn't have been splashed all over the Internet?

I am speaking about one and a half hours on the evening of 3rd May when people think there was no sign of tension. If (other) people are able put on an act for months an hour and a half is nothing, especially if no-one is really scrutinising them.

[Carana]

I am speaking about one and a half hours on the evening of 3rd May when people think there was no sign of tension. If (other) people are able put on an act for months an hour and a half is nothing, especially if no-one is really scrutinising them.

But that 1.5 hours has spanned into nearly 9 years...

[Lace]

That is your belief.

So how would a doctor then deal with an emergency with their own child, with a life threatening condition, if no other doctor was available ?

Would they just stand there ?

Of course they wouldn't just stand there,   but they wouldn't be as calm and collected when dealing with their own child as they would be with a strangers child.

Honestly Stephen,   if you were faced with a child dying in an accident and it was a strangers child,  obviously you would be upset,  but if it was your own child you would be absolutely distraught wouldn't you?   Unable to behave rationally and no way would you be going out to dinner and laughing with friends.    The McCann's behaved in the way you would expect parents to behave when they found Madeleine missing,   distraught, unable to function.