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Offline mercury

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #255 on: April 03, 2016, 10:56:52 PM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vile-fantasist-ties-to-sell-dynamite-1656692

That is supposed to be a cite evidence or proof that the rogatory interviews were tampered with , youre having a major laugh

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #256 on: April 03, 2016, 11:00:28 PM »
then that is a fact,....wasnt it clear the first time


So what is the significance of the fact ?
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Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #257 on: April 03, 2016, 11:01:38 PM »
That is supposed to be a cite evidence or proof that the rogatory interviews were tampered with , youre having a major laugh

It points to what Levy (with a loaded agenda against the McCanns) is capable of ....

It defies rational comprehension that such a man should ever have been allowed to lay his hands on them ....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #258 on: April 03, 2016, 11:07:57 PM »
It points to what Levy (with a loaded agenda against the McCanns) is capable of ....

It defies rational comprehension that such a man should ever have been allowed to lay his hands on them ....

Well once you set foot beyond the soggy bit at Dover there's no telling what will happen, chief.
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Offline mercury

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #259 on: April 03, 2016, 11:10:21 PM »
It points to what Levy (with a loaded agenda against the McCanns) is capable of ....

It defies rational comprehension that such a man should ever have been allowed to lay his hands on them ....

So no cite evidence or proof that the rogatories were tampered with as claimed by your fellow davel...in any case Id imagine it wuld take a magician to replicate their sentence structures

Offline Brietta

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #260 on: April 04, 2016, 03:18:16 AM »
I don't know about Portugal, but it's not the case in the UK;

A witness statement is your written or video recorded account of what happened to you. A police officer will ask you questions and write down what you have said. You will be asked to read it and sign it with your name. When you sign a witness statement you are saying that you agree the statement is a true account of your experience. Your witness statement may be used as evidence in court.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/victims_witnesses/reporting_a_crime/telling_police.html

The statements taken in Portugal are not verbatim and are third party summaries which a reading of any will verify.

**snipped from Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 10th of May 2007
They bathed the children, the deponent having left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, which was attended by: DAN, the tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played before.
During the afternoon of that day, the rest of the group, including the children, were at the beach, having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DAVID PAYNE next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, which he refused, as he had already been plying for about an hour and had to go back to his wife. Nevertheless, RUSSEL, DAVID and MATHEW stayed to play..
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #261 on: April 04, 2016, 05:43:58 AM »

TOPIC.  PLEASE.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #262 on: April 04, 2016, 08:10:29 AM »
I don't know about Portugal, but it's not the case in the UK;

A witness statement is your written or video recorded account of what happened to you. A police officer will ask you questions and write down what you have said. You will be asked to read it and sign it with your name. When you sign a witness statement you are saying that you agree the statement is a true account of your experience. Your witness statement may be used as evidence in court.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/victims_witnesses/reporting_a_crime/telling_police.html

a witness statement can be used as evidence but not against you unless you have been cautioned...or in portugal made an arguido...the mccanns could not possibly understand what they were asked to sign...therefore from a legal point of view their signature worrthless

Offline slartibartfast

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #263 on: April 04, 2016, 08:43:32 AM »
a witness statement can be used as evidence but not against you unless you have been cautioned...or in portugal made an arguido...the mccanns could not possibly understand what they were asked to sign...therefore from a legal point of view their signature worrthless

You mean they were mentally challenged?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #264 on: April 04, 2016, 08:48:14 AM »
a witness statement can be used as evidence but not against you unless you have been cautioned...or in portugal made an arguido...the mccanns could not possibly understand what they were asked to sign...therefore from a legal point of view their signature worrthless

In the case of any of the witness statements made by British people being used in a court case, the police officers wouldn't be able to testify as to what was said because of the language barrier. The interpreter is the person who heard what was said.
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Offline Brietta

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #265 on: April 04, 2016, 10:05:15 AM »
Eleanor has asked if we could return to topic which is "Charity collectors" data. We have strayed into witness statements - me too - please let us return to approximately where we should be.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #266 on: April 04, 2016, 10:08:03 AM »
In the case of any of the witness statements made by British people being used in a court case, the police officers wouldn't be able to testify as to what was said because of the language barrier. The interpreter is the person who heard what was said.

Which is some instances was Murat
An arguido himself

Offline mercury

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #267 on: April 04, 2016, 09:08:23 PM »
Eleanor has asked if we could return to topic which is "Charity collectors" data. We have strayed into witness statements - me too - please let us return to approximately where we should be.

Then maybe the thread should be split and the witness statements part be afforded a new thread. People cant waltz about saying official interpreters writings, that the tapas 9 signed, are "hearsay" or that the  journo D Levy criminally doctored the rogatory interviews...both been touted as a fact but with no evidence to back up the "claims" which makes them dud, until such time
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #268 on: April 04, 2016, 10:10:30 PM »
If there were any relationship between the activities of the charity collectors and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann do we believe that The Met will not have looked at this in the past 5 years and come to a conclusion? The absence of arrests, that we know of, would suggest that there was no connection found OR a connection has been found and the recently awarded 95 grand is to " go get 'em".
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Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #269 on: April 04, 2016, 10:25:09 PM »
If a burglar opened the shutters and the window and was confronted with a child the burglar would simply go away.
is this a fact or an assumption?