"Charity collectors" data

[pathfinder73]

Not quite true.  In this country people regularly get arrested on mere suspicion of something and are then released without charge

True Jassi but not Columbo 

[mercury]

Tony Blair once was hell bent on introducing a law where someone could be arrested if they "looked as though they were going to commit an offence".  &%+((£

Chilcots report due any day..at last, hopefully it will not exonerate him

[Admin]

Chilcots report due any day..at last, hopefully it will not exonerate him

I cannot see it as being anything other than yet another whitewash.

[pegasus]

Going Off Topic again.  Please stop now.

Yes however TB would be on-topic on a phone records thread

[pathfinder73]

 There must be something else, surely?

HJG- Of course. On the day of the kidnapping Jose Carlos did not go to work, but was in the area. He made three phone calls to Ricardo Rodrigues, the other suspect I located, at 17:26, 21:38 and 21:51. As well as a SMS message at 21:25. I should point out that, according to the testimonies I have read, I believe Madeleine was abducted around 21:50. But getting back to José Carlos, at 23:00 he was “Taking some fresh air” in a balcony of his building, despite the night being quite chilly. And it is right in that street, by that building, that one person, a witness known to Scotland Yard noticed two men arguing, when they noticed they were observed they departed speaking in whispers. But the definitive fact to consider José Carlos a suspect was found in the Portuguese file... he had a criminal record for theft!

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Jose wasn't working that night because Bernardino was.

Raj Balu and Neil Berry were also out on their balcony and the Moyes above 5A. Both heard and saw nothing.

What about 8:30 when they left the apartment? 9pm first check? Did they forget to contact each other? Where was he watching the table from?

A criminal record for theft? aka no glove man. What evidence have to got of him entering via the window to attempt to steal valuables?

Oh **** there's  deep sleeping children let's just steal one instead.

"Following this line of reasoning it was determined that two witnesses ' Bernardino (pag. 372) and Ecaterina (pag 596) ' activated one of the antennas, beyond the time that they stated having left that area."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm

[sadie]

There must be something else, surely?

HJG- Of course. On the day of the kidnapping Jose Carlos did not go to work, but was in the area. He made three phone calls to Ricardo Rodrigues, the other suspect I located, at 17:26, 21:38 and 21:51. As well as a SMS message at 21:25. I should point out that, according to the testimonies I have read, I believe Madeleine was abducted around 21:50. But getting back to José Carlos, at 23:00 he was “Taking some fresh air” in a balcony of his building, despite the night being quite chilly. And it is right in that street, by that building, that one person, a witness known to Scotland Yard noticed two men arguing, when they noticed they were observed they departed speaking in whispers. But the definitive fact to consider José Carlos a suspect was found in the Portuguese file... he had a criminal record for theft!

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Jose wasn't working that night because Bernardino was.

Raj Balu and Neil Berry were also out on their balcony and the Moyes above 5A. Both heard and saw nothing.What about 8:30 when they left the apartment? 9pm first check? Did they forget to contact each other? Where was he watching the table from?

A criminal record for theft? aka no glove man. What evidence have to got of him entering via the window to attempt to steal valuables?

Oh **** there's  deep sleeping children let's just steal one instead.

"Following this line of reasoning it was determined that two witnesses ' Bernardino (pag. 372) and Ecaterina (pag 596) ' activated one of the antennas, beyond the time that they stated having left that area."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm

Raj Balu and Neil Berry were also out on their balcony and the Moyes above 5A. Both heard and saw nothing.

Sheer Affrontary to say that.

You know, as we all know, that for some mysterious reason the statements of Raj Balu and Neil Berry have vanished.  Caroline Carpenters has vanished too.

There were hundreds of Statements, all carefully kept, yet the three that could verify the time of the search ... and the fact that Gerry was searching, with times, and indicated his innocence ... have ALL THREE VANISHED.

To me it seems VERY SINISTER that the three people whose testomony could clear Gerry from all this awful speculation HAVE VANISHED.  All the others kept, but those three vanished




Of course, had these three remained for all to read along with the hundreds of others, they would likely have blown Amarals theory  .... and YOUR OWN theory, PFinder

[pathfinder73]

You can retract your accusation that you just made to me in error Sadie. This is evidence from the PJ files.

 "We ordered our food and had a drink whilst waiting for the food to arrive. We returned around 20:15-20:30.

We returned (to) the Berry apartment and all of us ate on the veranda."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RAJ_BALU.htm

[G-Unit]

Raj Balu and Neil Berry were also out on their balcony and the Moyes above 5A. Both heard and saw nothing.

Sheer Affrontary to say that.

You know, as we all know, that for some mysterious reason the statements of Raj Balu and Neil Berry have vanished.  Caroline Carpenters has vanished too.

There were hundreds of Statements, all carefully kept, yet the three that could verify the time of the search ... and the fact that Gerry was searching, with times, and indicated his innocence ... have ALL THREE VANISHED.

To me it seems VERY SINISTER that the three people whose testomony could clear Gerry from all this awful speculation HAVE VANISHED.  All the others kept, but those three vanished




Of course, had these three remained for all to read along with the hundreds of others, they would likely have blown Amarals theory  .... and YOUR OWN theory, PFinder

All three statements (or more) were made to the British police. The British asked the PJ to keep certain statements secret for various reasons. Therefore it's possible that those statements were not released due to a request by the UK.

[sadie]

You can retract your accusation that you just made to me in error Sadie. This is evidence from the PJ files.

 "We ordered our food and had a drink whilst waiting for the food to arrive. We returned around 20:15-20:30.

We returned (to) the Berry apartment and all of us ate on the veranda."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RAJ_BALU.htm

As you obviously didn't bother to read it properly, I have added an underline to the part that you said and that was contentious.  Not true from any statements.  Made up like your signature.

Raj Balu and Neil Berry were also out on their balcony and the Moyes above 5A. Both heard and saw nothing. [/size]

Disinformation and sheer Affrontary for you to say that.

[pathfinder73]

As you obviously didn't bother to read it properly, I have added an underline to the part that you said and that was contentious.  Not true from any statements.  Made up like your signature.

Raj Balu and Neil Berry were also out on their balcony and the Moyes above 5A. Both heard and saw nothing. [/size]

Disinformation and sheer Affrontary for you to say that.

After the alarm was raised they first heard noises.

"After 22:00 we were still sitting on the veranda in the Berry apartment. We heard noises downstairs and afterwards found out that a child had disappeared. My testimony dated 6th of May 2007 related the details of the conversation we overheard and the information regarding the paper that Neil and I used in the searches. I cannot add any more details save those which have already been given in this testimony."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RAJ_BALU.htm

It suggests the conversation they overheard is being kept secret from us.

[Gadfly1.3]

Disinformation and sheer Affrontary for you to say that.

Porque?

[sadie]

Porque?

No, but I had bacon eggs, and chips.   Very nice it was too, thank you.

 *&*%£

[Heriberto Janosch]

Burglaries. And maybe no more clues.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/madeleine-mccann-detective-we-still-hope-to-find-her-alive-a3227561.html

[pegasus]

Thanks Heri. That link doesn't work (it's got a mailto: prefix) but this one does
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/madeleine-mccann-detective-we-still-hope-to-find-her-alive-a3227561.html

[mercury]

I cannot see it as being anything other than yet another whitewash.

me neither, but you never know, to many angry people out there waiting for answers, que serra