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Offline mercury

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2016, 12:29:08 AM »
No, that is precisely what you are suggesting - it is you who has suggested that a Syrian refugee chooses the horizontal method of carrying a child to save its life, which is a bizarre idea.  He could just as well have chosen to hug that child to his chest keeping him warm in a snow storm.  Cutting to the chase - adults, men in particular, sometimes do carry sleeping children in the manner described by Jane Tanner, and to suggest that this method of carrying is somehow unnatural or abnormal is complete nonsense. 

Good night.

Carrying a child like that suggests injury or protection from danger, its NOT a normal carrying position apart from tiny babies and very young toddlers whch madeleine was not

Yes, tara

Offline misty

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2016, 12:35:52 AM »
Carrying a child like that suggests injury or protection from danger, its NOT a normal carrying position apart from tiny babies and very young toddlers whch madeleine was not

Yes, tara

Carrying a child Tannerman style also prevents a child from kicking you hard, biting or grabbing at your face.

Offline mercury

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #92 on: April 06, 2016, 12:39:48 AM »
Carrying a child Tannerman style also prevents a child from kicking you hard, biting or grabbing at your face.

If theyre not drugged and if they did not do that when tanner saw "them" and besides i doubt any abductor would care about a 3 yr old  kicking them

Edited for the spelling police
« Last Edit: April 06, 2016, 12:54:50 AM by mercury »

Offline misty

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2016, 01:19:01 AM »
If theyre not drugged and if they did not do that when tanner saw "them" and besides i doubt any abductor would care about a 3 yr old  kicking them

Edited for the spelling police

JT couldn't see if the child was struggling or not - and a few pieces of duct tape over the mouth would muffle any noise.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #94 on: April 06, 2016, 01:19:20 AM »
The correct way to investigate is
1. First determine the time window (the absolute earliest and absolute latest possible times) during which the missing person could have left the residence. No assumptions about the nature of the event are allowed. No sightings are allowed to be taken into account at this stage. It's important to get this right before even looking at any supposed sightings.
2. Only after the time window has been determined, then look at all sightings of all types near the residence in that time window, without any assumptions about transport method.

« Last Edit: April 06, 2016, 01:21:36 AM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #95 on: April 06, 2016, 01:53:18 AM »
JT couldn't see if the child was struggling or not - and a few pieces of duct tape over the mouth would muffle any noise.

So duct tape would  stop any noise, so no need to carry in that position for noise made...and also for kicking or biting...muzzle?

« Last Edit: April 06, 2016, 01:59:28 AM by mercury »

Offline misty

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #96 on: April 06, 2016, 02:01:29 AM »
The correct way to investigate is
1. First determine the time window (the absolute earliest and absolute latest possible times) during which the missing person could have left the residence. No assumptions about the nature of the event are allowed. No sightings are allowed to be taken into account at this stage. It's important to get this right before even looking at any supposed sightings.
2. Only after the time window has been determined, then look at all sightings of all types near the residence in that time window, without any assumptions about transport method.

So you work from 5.30pm or whenever Madeleine left high tea. Any evidence she made it back to 5a at all?
Latest time - what time did the CSI leave the premises & how were the doors secured? Was the property guarded until officers arrived the following morning?

Offline misty

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #97 on: April 06, 2016, 02:03:41 AM »
So duct tape would  stop any noise, so no need to carry in that position for noise made...and also for kicking or biting...muzzle?

You've never dealt with your little darlings having a prolonged "moment"?

stephen25000

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Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #98 on: April 06, 2016, 08:34:30 AM »
JT couldn't see if the child was struggling or not - and a few pieces of duct tape over the mouth would muffle any noise.

Yeah, so someone carrying a child in a street who could have been seen doing that......

« Last Edit: April 06, 2016, 08:36:50 AM by Eleanor »

Offline John

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #99 on: April 06, 2016, 09:18:28 AM »
I know it is awfully boring of me to ask but could we keep to the topic theme please? TY
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #100 on: April 06, 2016, 11:17:18 AM »
There is no forensic test for remnant cadaver scent

In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed.

Mark Harrison

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P9/09_VOLUME_IXa_Page_2227.jpg

Crucial to put that quote in context.

Made before any canine inspections had been carried out ....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #101 on: April 06, 2016, 11:21:16 AM »
Crucial to put that quote in context.

Made before any canine inspections had been carried out ....

Why does that alter the statement?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #102 on: April 06, 2016, 11:29:04 AM »
As I have posted Harrison has made it clear that NO INFERENCE CAN BE MADE FROM THE UNCONFIRMED ALERTS....

so the alerts tell us nothing....

ferryman

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Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #103 on: April 06, 2016, 11:49:39 AM »
Why does that alter the statement?

Important to make plain that Harrison was not commenting on anything that may (or may not) have been indicated by any alert.

ferryman

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Re: Was there actual 'evidence' Madeleine might have died in apartment 5a?
« Reply #104 on: April 06, 2016, 12:04:13 PM »
I know it is awfully boring of me to ask but could we keep to the topic theme please? TY

Fair dos ....

No (in answer to the opening post)