Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive

[slartibartfast]

I am sure everyone accepts that there is a very slim possibility of Madeleine being found alive and as an outcome would almost certainly be the best possible outcome. However to use that slim probability as proof that police have discounted pointers to her death is disingenuous at best.

[stephen25000]

Perhaps Stephen would like to prove his original statement.  And perhaps you can help him.

That applies to you as well.

I have yet to meet anyone face to face who I have discussed the case with, that they believe she is alive. Most believe she died very early on.

As for a fair selection of people's views,  look in the comments sections of the papers running the story.

[Brietta]

I think everyone should read that from page 50. All the deletions discovered on his phone and his cover stories for blood etc. Many believe they can outsmart the police.

"I consider detective's instinct or 'gut-feeling', to be an underplayed attribute in an era of risk aversion and performance management; it should be encouraged in detectives as part of their skllls base."

That's a very Dixon of Dock Green approach on a good day and a very Gene Hunt approach on a bad one.  Don't you think evidence and following and collating it has a place in modern day policing?

Let's face it ... the primary investigation went very much with the detective's "gut feeling" ... I prefer the way it is being done presently with a systematic approach to evidence gathering which has led to the statement that Madeleine may still be found alive.

If that statement had not been evidence based but the senior officer had said it was a "gut feeling" ... what would you be saying to that now?

Reading between the lines Scotland Yard have a definite line of inquiry.  I think they are determined that as long as there are investigative opportunities still open in Madeleine McCann's case they intend to follow them to conclusion ... that takes money ... and it has just been made very difficult for any home secretary to cut the funding for that live investigation.

[Eleanor]

That applies to you as well.

I have yet to meet anyone face to face who I have discussed the case with, that they believe she is alive. Most believe she died very early on.

As for a fair selection of people's views,  look in the comments sections of the papers running the story.

I don't have to prove anything, Stephen.  I only have to Hope.  What about you?

[jassi]

I don't have to prove anything, Stephen.  I only have to Hope.  What about you?

And do you think hope will change anything?  Will it bring a dead child back to life or make a living one any more alive?

[stephen25000]

I don't have to prove anything, Stephen.  I only have to Hope.  What about you?

Ah the old moral high ground ploy.

That really doesn't wash anymore.

Believe what you wish, that is your choice.

[pathfinder73]

That's a very Dixon of Dock Green approach on a good day and a very Gene Hunt approach on a bad one.  Don't you think evidence and following and collating it has a place in modern day policing?

Let's face it ... the primary investigation went very much with the detective's "gut feeling" ... I prefer the way it is being done presently with a systematic approach to evidence gathering which has led to the statement that Madeleine may still be found alive.

If that statement had not been evidence based but the senior officer had said it was a "gut feeling" ... what would you be saying to that now?

Reading between the lines Scotland Yard have a definite line of inquiry.  I think they are determined that as long as there are investigative opportunities still open in Madeleine McCann's case they intend to follow them to conclusion ... that takes money ... and it has just been made very difficult for any home secretary to cut the funding for that live investigation.

I believe they now know what happened in this case which explains the small team left on it. The suspected burglars were released without charge.

[Eleanor]

And do you think hope will change anything?  Will it bring a dead child back to life or make a living one any more alive?

No.  It just emphasises my attitude to life and to people in general.

And of course, if no one is looking for Madeleine then she is hardly likely to be found.

[Eleanor]

Ah the old moral high ground ploy.

That really doesn't wash anymore.

Believe what you wish, that is your choice.

I don't spend my life slagging off the parents of a missing child, or insisting that the child is dead.  That is what gives me the moral high ground.

[Eleanor]

I believe they now know what happened in this case which explains the small team left on it. The suspected burglars were released without charge.

I believe that they know what happened as well.

By the way, are the three Arguidos still Arguidos?

[stephen25000]

I don't spend my life slagging off the parents of a missing child, or insisting that the child is dead.  That is what gives me the moral high ground.

You have no moral high ground, when you said you left your children in similar circumstances.

The parents behaviour and the consequences of it, are why these threads exist.

The mccanns are responsible for what they did and what it led to.

Don't you agree.

[Eleanor]

You have no moral high ground, when you said you left your children in similar circumstances.

The parents behaviour and the consequences of it, are why these threads exist.

The mccanns are responsible for what they did and what it led to.

Don't you agree.

Your opinion of my leaving my children alone is of less than zero importance to me.  I have never lied about it, which is more than can be said for many.

The Abductor is the one responsible.  So of course I don't agree.

[pathfinder73]

I believe that they know what happened as well.

By the way, are the three Arguidos still Arguidos?

I haven't heard about any follow-up interviews. They were released. One was only 16 at the time. Smithman the lone burglar was definitely not 16.

[Eleanor]

I haven't heard about any follow-up interviews. They were released. One was only 16 at the time. Smithman the lone burglar was definitely not 16.

So they are likely still Arguidos.  And the other two weren't 16.  Far from it.

[stephen25000]

Your opinion of my leaving my children alone is of less than zero importance to me.  I have never lied about it, which is more than can be said for many.

The Abductor is the one responsible.  So of course I don't agree.

Yes, you admitted that and you had the honesty to do it.


As to 'abduction', I don'the believe one ever took place, but I am prepared to accept undeniable  evidence that one took place. Can you say the same Eleanor about the accidental death scenario ?

As it stands I do not believe this case will ever be solved.