Author Topic: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.  (Read 287812 times)

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Offline mercury

Sorry was going to reply but couldn't  work out his logic.

I dont see any logic there, not even a bizarre one,thats why I had to ask..maybe Im too slow....

Offline Brietta

I think you're making it far too complicated Brietta.
All the previous illicit window openings in blocks 5 and 4 were by petty burglars.
They were stealing things like foreign currency, a video camera, mobile phones, and a TV.
The only reason they didn't steal anything at 5A is that they were unexpectedly interrupted.

It is by far the least complicated explanation and the simplest unless someone can come up with a better suggestion as to how Madeleine vanished as if in a puff of smoke.

They apparently had expertise in entering properties the only trace being the missing 'petty' goods thieved.  Perhaps they were sub-contracted.  Every petty thief probably dreams of the big job ... and this may have been theirs.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

There is more chance of an apartment in a family resort being occupied after 9pm than unoccupied - & rather difficult to determine with all those closed shutters.
How many other apartments were targeted that night or on subsequent nights? Drug-addicted petty burglars have needs.

Has it been established that any PdL burglars were drug addicts?
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Offline mercury

It is by far the least complicated explanation and the simplest unless someone can come up with a better suggestion as to how Madeleine vanished as if in a puff of smoke.

They apparently had expertise in entering properties the only trace being the missing 'petty' goods thieved.  Perhaps they were sub-contracted.  Every petty thief probably dreams of the big job ... and this may have been theirs.

Petty thieves sub contracted? To steal a 3 yr old? To order I expect (and for what reason?)  and get away with it for so long? You cannot be serious!

Offline misty

Has it been established that any PdL burglars were drug addicts?

You would have to ask the Portuguese press & Carlos Anjos for their sources.

Offline pegasus

(snip) rather difficult to determine with all those closed shutters (snip)
Both shutters of lounge door were up.Kitchen shutter was up.
Other shutters were down but with some slats that let light through open.
It was easy for someone in street to see the dim light level inside

Offline misty

Both shutters of lounge door were up.Kitchen shutter was up.
Other shutters were down but with some slats that let light through open.
It was easy for someone in street to see the dim light level inside

That's just the issue, though. 5a was illuminated. What about all the other apartments in the various blocks with shutters closed & no sign of illumination? Why would a burglar target the one with a light on?

Offline mercury

Am I right in thinking there is actually no evidence for an attempted burglary on 5a night of 3 May 07? that led to a chld abduction, as in fingerprints, dna, witnesses...all of which seem quite flakey circumstantially even ?...ie its just a theory among many?

Offline pegasus

Oh, so he/she/they knocked on the door. How do you know?
Because I researched it GUnit - it is very common for burglars to knock/ring at the door first.
Here is just one example written by a professional burglar
"I’ll knock on your door to see if anyone is home"
For hundreds of sources confirming this google: burglar knock on door

Offline mercury

Because I researched it GUnit - it is very common for burglars to knock/ring at the door first.
Here is just one example written by a professional burglar
"I’ll knock on your door to see if anyone is home"
For hundreds of sources confirming this google: burglar knock on door

Some people just dont answer it, they peek through the curtains, or not, think I dont know them, or dont want to onow who it is as Im not expecting anyone, its late, think I will ignore..so any burglar assuming no one is in is taking a risk of being seen/identified/accosted

Offline Brietta

Am I right in thinking there is actually no evidence for an attempted burglary on 5a night of 3 May 07? that led to a chld abduction, as in fingerprints, dna, witnesses...all of which seem quite flakey circumstantially even ?...ie its just a theory among many?

Ask the same questions about the burglaries we know took place ... were there witnesses, apart from Mrs Fenn?  Were there any forensic traces?  Were any of the burglars apprehended and taken into custody?
Yet we know that there were burglars operating in Praia da Luz.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

That's just the issue, though. 5a was illuminated. What about all the other apartments in the various blocks with shutters closed & no sign of illumination? Why would a burglar target the one with a light on?
The low level of light inside indicated that everyone was out.

Offline Brietta

Some people just dont answer it, they peek through the curtains, or not, think I dont know them, or dont want to onow who it is as Im not expecting anyone, its late, think I will ignore..so any burglar assuming no one is in is taking a risk of being seen/identified/accosted

If I am home alone at night I never answer the door to a stranger.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Ask the same questions about the burglaries we know took place ... were there witnesses, apart from Mrs Fenn?  Were there any forensic traces?  Were any of the burglars apprehended and taken into custody?
Yet we know that there were burglars operating in Praia da Luz.

Knowing burglaries happened elsewhere even without forensics or witnesses is no evidence one happened in 5a, so it remains a theory at best, how can it be anything else, notwithstanding  how a petty burglary turned into the chld abduction of the century

Offline misty

The low level of light inside indicated that everyone was out.

......or that people were in their bedrooms, resting.....