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Offline misty

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary
« Reply #1410 on: June 01, 2016, 04:54:32 PM »
If she was removed from the bed by someone then yes. I'm not actually saying she was though. My intention was to point out that an open door doesn't prove that a walking child opened it, as was being suggested.

I agree - and a dead child cannot open a door.

Offline mercury

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary
« Reply #1411 on: June 02, 2016, 12:43:12 AM »
The child who was removed from the bed was alive due to lack of cadaver dog alerts in the children's bedroom?

Or she was not in that bed, so if dead, no dog alert there

Offline pegasus

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary
« Reply #1412 on: June 02, 2016, 02:09:34 AM »
Proof? Afraid not. Try this; an adult picked the child up from the bed and carried her elsewhere, leaving the bedroom door open.
Ok it's not proof but it's the simplest solution. And G-Unit there is no evidence any intruder entered the apartment.
There were 3 children alone in the apartment, 2 of them were immobile in cots, so I looked it up in by my "Occam's guide to open doors" and it says the child not in a cot must have opened the door.
However it seems this elegant solution is rather too complicated for everyone except me (and possibly Mr A).
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Offline pegasus

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1413 on: June 02, 2016, 02:33:12 AM »
In Mr A's film, does the child actress pull the door open herself? Or is it already open?
http://youtu.be/qdMoUFnnYfc?t=48m4s

Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1414 on: June 02, 2016, 11:38:39 PM »
THE MADELEINE MCCANN ABDUCTION: CRIMINAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF THE OFFENDER

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2016/06/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-criminal.html
« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 07:12:44 AM by Heriberto Janosch »

Offline mercury

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1415 on: June 03, 2016, 12:01:27 AM »
THE MADELEINE MCCANN ABDUCTION: CRIMINAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF THE OFFENDER

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2016/06/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-criminal.html

Jane tanner saw a man a few minutes before 10?
Did she imagine jez and gerry chatting at that time as well?
Alot of your blog posts sounds sound though

Alfie

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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1416 on: June 03, 2016, 12:02:29 AM »
THE MADELEINE MCCANN ABDUCTION: CRIMINAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF THE OFFENDER

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2016/06/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-criminal.html
Interesting read, however there is one fatal flaw in your reasoning.  If Madeleine disturbed the burglar and he had to take her for fear of being id'ed then why was the 'abductor' seen with a sleeping child in his arms?  Your theory only works if we discount the possiblility of Tannerman and Smithman being the abductor.

Offline insider

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1417 on: June 03, 2016, 12:28:48 AM »
THE MADELEINE MCCANN ABDUCTION: CRIMINAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF THE OFFENDER

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2016/06/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-criminal.html

snip

"A few minutes before 22:00, a woman saw in the middle of the street near the apartment, a man carrying a child in his arms. The child could be Madeleine. Just after 22:00 the members of an Irish family observed in the middle of the street, independently to the first witness, and in a place which is about 500 meters walk, a man carrying a child in his arms, also like Madeleine."

Hardly a few minutes before 10pm Heri, it might be the language barrier but 9.15pm is a long way from 10pm.

In any event I go with Alfie on the matter of the child being silent and the fact that burglars don't abduct children, they usually scamper.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 12:33:16 AM by insider »
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Offline misty

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1418 on: June 03, 2016, 12:46:50 AM »
A child lured to the bedroom window would not have opened the bedroom door (again).

Offline mercury

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1419 on: June 03, 2016, 01:50:19 AM »
A child lured to the bedroom window would not have opened the bedroom door (again).

Lured and left and maybe went to the loo

Offline pegasus

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1420 on: June 03, 2016, 02:15:12 AM »
A child lured to the bedroom window would not have opened the bedroom door (again).
Precisely Misty. If Heri's walk towards window theory were correct, the bedroom door would have still been only barely ajar (or more likely completely slammed closed by the wind) when KM arrived.

In fact, the bedroom door was wide open when KM arrived.


 
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1421 on: June 03, 2016, 07:46:44 AM »
One theory we discussed on Heri's visit was whether Jane Tanner's sighting was at the time she claimed. 
What's up, old man?

Offline xtina

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1422 on: June 03, 2016, 11:06:17 AM »
it wasn't just the McCann's who thought it was safe,  I read a cleaner said many holiday makers left their doors open during the day.


oh so that makes it ok then in your book....  8**8:/:

i bet though three little children were not ....... left alone inside....

what i also find odd about your post ......you find acceptable people left doors open

yet what about the so called spate of burglaries ...the staff/cleaner's would have been aware of ...

and you would have thought ...alerted them about this...

not make out it's a natural thing to do .....
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline jassi

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1423 on: June 03, 2016, 11:12:46 AM »
One theory we discussed on Heri's visit was whether Jane Tanner's sighting was at the time she claimed.

Did you reach a conclusion?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Lace

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1424 on: June 03, 2016, 02:27:40 PM »

oh so that makes it ok then in your book....  8**8:/:

i bet though three little children were not ....... left alone inside....

what i also find odd about your post ......you find acceptable people left doors open

yet what about the so called spate of burglaries ...the staff/cleaner's would have been aware of ...

and you would have thought ...alerted them about this...

not make out it's a natural thing to do .....

Only just seen this post.

NO I don't think it's ok to leave doors open how did you get to that conclusion?