"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[mercury]

No point because it is after midnight, and everyone else took their thinking caps off two hours ago Merc.

No, dont say that, tell us.....

[misty]

1. True. 2. Someone once said when you've eliminated the ...

To me, the impossible is that Madeleine was still in the apartment after 10pm.
What is the impossible to you?

[ShiningInLuz]

What on earth do you think they could do?

They could have taken Davel's route and written down their own idea of the time line, but each working individually.  I have seen many a group exercise get skewed in favour of those with the dominant personalities.

And why was a time line before 9 necessary if Gerry checked at that time?

And why a time line in the first place?  Why not other information, like Tannerman and a written description thereof?  What good was a time line to Madeleine if she had been abducted?

As it so happens, I was up until 4am this morning/last night writing up the points I had discussed with Heri yesterday evening in the sure and certain knowledge that if I left it to the morning my memory would have faded a bit.  And sure enough, this evening's discussion raised a fair few points that I had still failed to remember.

I've got another night shift of writing coming on for the same reason.

[pegasus]

To me, the impossible is that Madeleine was still in the apartment after 10pm. (snip)

You are in excellent company Misty with the entire PJ and OG investigations.

[ShiningInLuz]

I think you do not understand how their minds would work....you would want to feed raw information to the PJ...they would want to assist the PJ and have some sort of input...you find it odd....I find it perfectly natuaral

Unless you have a direct line to them, you have no better understanding of how their brains work than I do.

I'm not speaking about their brains as if I know how their brains work.

I'm speaking about my finding it odd, which is altogether different.

[ShiningInLuz]

and I would think that is a very good reason that they would not want to work with you

Unless you are connected to the McCanns, know that they know of me, know how they would react in such a situation, you are spouting nonsense.

You may think I should not work with them because .....

But you haven't a clue as to what they would think.

[pegasus]

I think you do not understand how their minds would work....you would want to feed raw information to the PJ...they would want to assist the PJ and have some sort of input...you find it odd....I find it perfectly natuaral

I agree with Davel, ROB wrote the timelines with nothing but the best intentions, it was a very sensible thing to do.

[misty]

You are in excellent company Misty with the entire PJ and OG investigations.

Yet still I sense you have an issue with that.....because you queried the size of the pile of dirty laundry.

[ShiningInLuz]

They are poeple used to taking charge in a crisis...to suggest they wanted to take charge of the police investigation is more than a tad ridiculous....just as they expect intelligent patients to have input into their own treatment they would expect to have an input into the case

I responded to your post as you phrased it.  They are used to taking charge.  If this has been watered down to they expect to have an input to the case, then we are making progress.

Of course they should have an input to the case, like giving their own personal statement.  That is altogether different to a groupthink statement.

[pathfinder73]

Benice, we have been constantly told the mccanns and co., were panicking.

So how could they sit down and write down their timelines coherently ?

Apparently they couldn't function for a few days  I wonder if someone stole their mobiles that night and deleted their call history before the PJ got them. Time to separate facts from BS like that timeline. Jane left at 9:20 on that timeline when Matt and Russ both said they left at 9:25. That didn't happen folks (Jane said 9:10 in her rog)! The big change on the first timeline is after 9 when the time has moved on 10 minutes. That is most interesting as it fits my theory like a glove that burglar forgot to bring 

[ShiningInLuz]

to put it kindly they probably have a lot of unsolicited offers of support and they go in the bin

A topic of discussion with Heri tonight.  Not my offer.  The gatekeepers around the McCanns.

[pegasus]

Yet still I sense you have an issue with that.....because you queried the size of the pile of dirty laundry.

IMO it's illogical that people insist on taking their thinking caps off at 10pm Misty.

[ShiningInLuz]

if sil finds their actions odd....I would question whether her skills of deduction would be any help...imo of course

I am not offering my 'skills of deduction'.  I am offering my knowledge of Luz.

Tonight, Heri and I finished off by visiting the Smith sighting.  He is well-versed on the sighting, has visited the scene several times, and has a better understanding than most.

However, I was able to show him one small aspect of the sighting that may be vital in understanding the sighting that he was not previously aware of.

I am talking about getting the PIs up to speed on Luz as it relates to the case, to save the team time and effort, and save the McCanns money.

This offer can be accepted with zero risk to the McCanns.  Or it can be rejected and we can expect the PI team to flounder about as badly as OG, wasting vast amounts of time and burning vast amounts of 'McCann' cash, diminishing the chances of finding out what happened to Madeleine.

[pathfinder73]

Any reconstruction starts at 5:30 when Madeleine is signed out from the tapas area.

[pegasus]

I am not offering my 'skills of deduction'.  I am offering my knowledge of Luz.

Tonight, Heri and I finished off by visiting the Smith sighting.  He is well-versed on the sighting, has visited the scene several times, and has a better understanding than most.

However, I was able to show him one small aspect of the sighting that may be vital in understanding the sighting that he was not previously aware of.

I am talking about getting the PIs up to speed on Luz as it relates to the case, to save the team time and effort, and save the McCanns money.

This offer can be accepted with zero risk to the McCanns.  Or it can be rejected and we can expect the PI team to flounder about as badly as OG, wasting vast amounts of time and burning vast amounts of 'McCann' cash, diminishing the chances of finding out what happened to Madeleine.

What is your opinion of the little gate on the right as you descend the steps Shining?