"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[mercury]

If it's possible to have negative weights of salt, I think almost everyone here would agree to value Mr Panama Hat's learned opinion at about minus ten million metric tonnes.

Oh at the very least, youre tooooo generous

Unfortunately Kate mccann tended to agree with him

[G-Unit]

I agree with Davel, ROB wrote the timelines with nothing but the best intentions, it was a very sensible thing to do.

What was it's purpose? How was it going to help?

[Mr Gray]

There is no evidence that the McCanns are not involved.  OG has a remit not to investigate the MCanns, which is different.  The Oporto team appears to have said that the McCanns are not being investigated, for whatever reason.

But not being investigated and evidence of non-involvement are two different things.

The statement by redwood is evidence of their non involvement...the fact that they are not being investigated is evidence of their non involvement . You have NO evidence that SY have been told not to investigate the McCanns.
The idea that SY have reviewed all the evidence and ignored any implicating the McCanns is simply ridiculous.
You seem to have a problem accepting evidence which points to the non involvement of the McCanns

when was the remit drawn up....was it not after SY had looked at the files...looked at the evidence and seen there was nothing to mimplicate the McCanns

[stephen25000]

The statement by redwood is evidence of their non involvement...the fact that they are not being investigated is evidence of their non involvement . You have NO evidence that SY have been told not to investigate the McCanns.
The idea that SY have reviewed all the evidence and ignored any implicating the McCanns is simply ridiculous.
You seem to have a problem accepting evidence which points to the non involvement of the McCanns

when was the remit drawn up....was it not after SY had looked at the files...looked at the evidence and seen there was nothing to mimplicate the McCanns

Typing this virtually everyday will not make people believe you.

[Mr Gray]

Typing this virtually everyday will not make people believe you.

I don't care if people as biased as you believe me...I note you can make no valid criticism of my post

[stephen25000]

I don't care if people as biased as you believe me...I note you can make no valid criticism of my post

Total hypocrisy.

Everything you type shows your bias to the mccanns and the made up abduction, which lacks even a shred of evidence to back it up.

[Mr Gray]

Total hypocrisy.

Everything you type shows your bias to the mccanns and the made up abduction, which lacks even a shred of evidence to back it up.

I'm sure others must notice that you simply simply refer to posts as "utter rubbish" but never offer any consructive critique. Probably because you can't. So look at my response to sil and tell me what is wrong with my logic...otherwise stop the pointless bickering

[stephen25000]

I'm sure others must notice that you simply simply refer to posts as "utter rubbish" but never offer any consructive critique. Probably because you can't. So look at my response to sil and tell me what is wrong with my logic...otherwise stop the pointless bickering

I have asked repeatedly for evidence of abduction.

You and your fellows have failed to provide any.

[Mr Gray]

I have asked repeatedly for evidence of abduction.

You and your fellows have failed to provide any.

I have posted a whole thread on it...you are wildly off topic again...stop bickering

[stephen25000]

There is nothing on there of any consequence whatsoever.

The fact is there is no evidence of any crime, if one occurred.

Beliefs are one thing, evidence is another.

[Mr Gray]

There is nothing on there of any consequence whatsoever.

The fact is there is no evidence of any crime, if one occurred.

Beliefs are one thing, evidence is another.

What is the probability that no crime was committed.....you tell us about your prowess in maths...go ahead. According to the archiving report it is unlikeley Maddie left teh apartment herself...that statement is evidence....which makes a crime most probable

[stephen25000]

It is quite evident a child could get out of the apartment.


It was unlocked.


Kate McCann stated I believe, it was left unlocked so Madeleine could get out and find her parents.

[Mr Gray]

It is quite evident a child could get out of the apartment.


It was unlocked.


Kate McCann stated I believe, it was left unlocked so Madeleine could get out and find her parents.

look at the archiving report where it says it is unlikely maddie could have left the apartment....so ...what is the probability of a crime

[G-Unit]

look at the archiving report where it says it is unlikely maddie could have left the apartment....so ...what is the probability of a crime

The report said;

As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely physically
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

I don't know why they thought it was highly unlikely physically. Sliding a patio door open was well within a four year old's capabilities. So was climbing onto one of the plastic chairs to look over the wall/railing. If the child gate was open it wouldn't have been a problem for her to descend to street level. Even if it was closed it wasn't an insurmountable barrier. In my opinion they didn't think that initially, hence the searching.

[stephen25000]

The report said;

As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely physically
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

I don't know why they thought it was highly unlikely physically. Sliding a patio door open was well within a four year old's capabilities. So was climbing onto one of the plastic chairs to look over the wall/railing. If the child gate was open it wouldn't have been a problem for her to descend to street level. Even if it was closed it wasn't an insurmountable barrier. In my opinion they didn't think that initially, hence the searching.

Precisely G-Unit.

From Kate Mccanns very own words.

Again to remind davel, there is an absence of evidence for how Madeleine was removed from the apartment, let alone whether it was 1 or more persons, or by herself.