"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[Mr Gray]

I have put your speculation, speculation, speculation in bold.

I ask for evidence.  You choose to speculate, with no evidence in sight.

The remit states the equivalent of the McCanns are not to be considered suspects.  Do we have to go over that time and time again?

Unlike several posters on here I don't post opinion as fact then refuse to give cites.....I prefer to be accurate and admit i have no proof of things. Alice quoted as fact that the setting up of Grange and the drawing up of the remit were contemporaneous without supplying any evidence...and you thanked him for the information...

You speculate that the Mccanns have not been investigated then criticise me for suggesting they have. So you think SY have not sat down with the McCanns and asked them questions about what happened that night..have not  gone through it in detail....of course they have....you think SY would rather rely on the twice translated non verbatim statements from the files....you need to think again

[Mr Gray]

I would speculate that the McCanns would be beating the door down to talk to SY and give accurate statements

[ShiningInLuz]

Unlike several posters on here I don't post opinion as fact then refuse to give cites.....I prefer to be accurate and admit i have no proof of things. Alice quoted as fact that the setting up of Grange and the drawing up of the remit were contemporaneous without supplying any evidence...and you thanked him for the information...

You speculate that the Mccanns have not been investigated then criticise me for suggesting they have. So you think SY have not sat down with the McCanns and asked them questions about what happened that nightg..have not  gone through it in detail....of course they have....you think SY would rather rely on the twice translated non verbatim statements from the files....you need to think again

I have put your speculation in bold.

We are making progress in that you admit you have no proof of things.

I note you are still supplying speculation.  Along the lines that the OG has sat down with the McCanns.  Anything to support this?

Absolutely anything?

Just one tiny article, from some rubbish newspaper?

As in, anything?

[Mr Gray]

I have put your speculation in bold.

We are making progress in that you admit you have no proof of things.

I note you are still supplying speculation.  Along the lines that the OG has sat down with the McCanns.  Anything to support this?

Absolutely anything?

Just one tiny article, from some rubbish newspaper?

As in, anything?

I said I didn't have proof...there is evidence...anything to support the fact that SY sat down with the McCanns...yes...common sense...seems in very short supply on this forum.

I quoted an article re proof which shows that the evidence that parachutes save lives when jumping from an aeroplane is quite poor...the evidence is poor but common sense tells us the parachute is a good idea

[ShiningInLuz]

I said I didn't have proof...there is evidence...anything to support the fact that SY sat down with the McCanns...yes...common sense...seems in very short supply on this forum.

I quoted an article re proof which shows that the evidence that parachutes save lives when jumping from an aeroplane is quite poor...the evidence is poor but common sense tells us the parachute is a good idea

I shall leave you to 'common sense' and parachutes.

I shall stick to evidence.

[Mr Gray]

I shall leave you to 'common sense' and parachutes.

I shall stick to evidence.

unless you understand the parachute then you would not understand evidence. It is used extensively as a teaching tool to help students understand evidence.
If you stick to evidence then the McCanns  are totally innocent...you finding something odd certainly is not evidence of anything

[Mr Gray]

I shall leave you to 'common sense' and parachutes.

I shall stick to evidence.

You have stated that you think the McCanns may be involved in Maddie's disappearance. Perhaps you could share the evidence that is based on

[stephen25000]

Some need reminding yet again, it has not been determined how Madeleine left the apartment, let alone if a person or persons were involved.

[Mr Gray]

Some need reminding yet again, it has not been determined how Madeleine left the apartment, let alone if a person or persons were involved.

It has been determined the Mccanns are not suspects...which narrows the field

[stephen25000]

In reality, since the crime is unknown and the mcccans and associates versions of events are inconsistent, you cannot remove them as persons of interest, especially the mccanns. They still remain the last known people to see Madeleine alive.

Nothing you can type will change that, or the 1-dimensional remit of SY.

[Mr Gray]

In reality, since the crime is unknown and the mcccans and associates versions of events are inconsistent, you cannot remove them as persons of interest, especially the mccanns. They still remain the last known people to see Madeleine alive.

Nothing you can type will change that, or the 1-dimensional remit of SY.

I haven't removed them...SY  has

[stephen25000]

Name which members of SY did that.

[Alice Purjorick]

unless you understand the parachute then you would not understand evidence. It is used extensively as a teaching tool to help students understand evidence.
If you stick to evidence then the McCanns  are totally innocent...you finding something odd certainly is not evidence of anything

Give a cite then

[G-Unit]

I said I didn't have proof...there is evidence...anything to support the fact that SY sat down with the McCanns...yes...common sense...seems in very short supply on this forum.

I quoted an article re proof which shows that the evidence that parachutes save lives when jumping from an aeroplane is quite poor...the evidence is poor but common sense tells us the parachute is a good idea

You have misunderstood the parachute example in my opinion. The evidence isn't poor, it's not 'scientific'.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/can-a-parachute-save-your-life-not-according-to-scienc-1556426507

 We all agree that using a parachute when leaping out of a plane is sensible because we all understand gravity and that falling from a great height isn't a good idea. That is 'common sense' - everyone agrees with it, it's a common opinion.

Cleary your assumption that OG have investigated the McCanns isn't 'common sense' because some think they have, some think they haven't and no-one actually knows.

[Mr Gray]

Give a cite then

https://www.ismp.org/newsletters/acutecare/articles/20040129.asp