"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[Brietta]

Which is precisely why, Sadie, I don't accept appeals to 'common sense' and references to 'standard procedure'. More is required. If people don't have more they should admit it's merely their opinion.

Similarly I don't accept that OG ever verified the timeline created by the Tapas group, because it can't be done at this stage. When they spoke of 'forensically analysing' it they were analysing something which they first needed to establish was factual. Amaral is correct in saying it should be reconstructed, but I don't see how that's possible now.

I agree that it would be impossible to reconstruct events of the night Madeleine disappeared.  I think Mr Amaral knows that perfectly well which makes one wonder why he would suggest it.

[G-Unit]

I agree that it would be impossible to reconstruct events of the night Madeleine disappeared.  I think Mr Amaral knows that perfectly well which makes one wonder why he would suggest it.

I can only guess.  He knows OG have appealed for Smithman to come forward. He knows Mr Smith thought it was Gerry McCann. He knows that Gerry McCann has been placed at the restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting. My guess is to bring it to people's notice that the timeline which placed Gerry there was never verified.

[Brietta]

I can only guess.  He knows OG have appealed for Smithman to come forward. He knows Mr Smith thought it was Gerry McCann. He knows that Gerry McCann has been placed at the restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting. My guess is to bring it to people's notice that the timeline which placed Gerry there was never verified.

He has no doubt read the files and compared the Smith and the McCluskey changes to their statements and decided that either both are right or both are wrong as one cannot be separated in content from the other.

Really weird though that absolutely everyone who made a statement about that night are to be believed without question ... but everything pertaining to Madeleine's parents and their party and others who have verified their accounts when cross checked ... are immediately suspect and to be viewed with distrust.

For example, the derision heaped on witnesses to strange behaviours in the run up to Madeleine's abduction is almost beyond belief.

It might be awkward getting hold of the really ugly guy to play his part in a reconstruction ... it might be a blow to his self esteem particularly if he has never thought of himself as ugly.
   

[mercury]

He has no doubt read the files and compared the Smith and the McCluskey changes to their statements and decided that either both are right or both are wrong as one cannot be separated in content from the other.

Really weird though that absolutely everyone who made a statement about that night are to be believed without question ... but everything pertaining to Madeleine's parents and their party and others who have verified their accounts when cross checked ... are immediately suspect and to be viewed with distrust.

For example, the derision heaped on witnesses to strange behaviours in the run up to Madeleine's abduction is almost beyond belief.

It might be awkward getting hold of the really ugly guy to play his part in a reconstruction ... it might be a blow to his self esteem particularly if he has never thought of himself as ugly.
 

Beng ugly or staring at a building being seen as evidence of involvement in a child abduction is what is wierd

My next door neighbours kid goes missing, im seen looking at her beautiful bouganvillea bush day in day out, i must be a suspect then, even if just a keen gardener and nothing else

You see brietta? Theres nhard evidence, there wasnt in 2007 and there still isnt in 2016, thats it, see u now

[ShiningInLuz]

Pathetic reply
The McCanns have been interviewed
It would be unheard of in the history of criminal investigations before them not to be

What evidence would you expect or accept

Anything would be better than the nothing offered so far.

Kindly note your opening sentence is a statement of fact, when you have nothing to support this fact.

So here is the truth.  The McCanns may or may not have been interviewed.  It would make sense that they should have.  There is no evidence that they have.

[ShiningInLuz]

I disagree...the existing files are twice translated and non verbatim and therefore unreliable. SY said they were taking the case back to the begining...... I do not think it is even a possibility that the Mccanns were not interviewed by SY...Brietta says she is certain and Eleanor agrees...so there is no suggestion I am a lone voice

You are a lone voice.

Both Brietta and Eleanor have had the good grace to make it clear that it is their opinion that such interviewing has taken place, on the basis that it makes sense that it should.

That is in line with the forum customs, and I am not going to contest such posts.  Both are fully entitled to their opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion too.  And if you made it clear you cannot support such interviews as fact, but it is your opinion that they should have/would have/might have occurred, then this exchange would cease.

So do you have evidence?  Or is it simply your opinion?

[ShiningInLuz]

It was reported that the Tapas 7 were to be interviewed by SY, no mention of the parents. conspicuous by absence then and thereafter. I will carry on googling though.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/58feb12/EXPRESS_05_02_2012.htm

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/58feb12/MAIL_05_02_2012.htm

Thank goodness for this.  A small crumb of evidence amid all the verbiage.  By 5 Feb 2012, OG was not at the stage of interviewing anyone, assuming the report is correct.  Whether the McCanns had been interviewed is STILL open to question, but it appears the T7 had not.

'One small step for man ...'

Well done Mercury.

[ShiningInLuz]

I agree that it would be impossible to reconstruct events of the night Madeleine disappeared.  I think Mr Amaral knows that perfectly well which makes one wonder why he would suggest it.

Mr Amaral has a career post-police, and anyone with any sense markets their career as hard as one can.  If there is another book about to hit the bookstands, it makes sense to promote it.  I have ceased to be interested in films, but I have an idea of what is going on from the celebrities appearing on chat shows, strangely just before a film they are in is about to be released.

What we now have is a fantastic idea.  It is the magnificent, impossible reconstruction.  Mr Amaral starts off with the T9, then he ropes in Jez, and of course Crèchedad.  Plus the Smiths.  I am not sure if he wants the 3 Smiths who gave statements, or all 9, but already we have a full orchestra of participants.

We are still awaiting illumination about what period this reconstruction will cover, how many OC employees are to be given bit roles, and just how much of Luz is to be sealed off for this effort.

Oh, and what it will tell us.

[Benice]

Thank you. Can we assume that you now accept there's no evidence that OG have investigated the McCanns and ruled them out?

Assume for instance that SY only had the same summarised non-verbatim statements that we have where Gerry apparently says he went into 5A by the front door using a key and then changed his statement in his next interview to say that he entered via the patio doors.

(a) Do you think SY are going to sit around puzzling and debating amongst themselves over why Gerry would make such an inexplicable claim and trying to fathom out what his reason for doing that would be?

or

(b) Do you think they would ask Gerry himself for an explanation as to why he changed his statement and then ask the Oporto Team to check his explanation with the PJ officers/translator who were present at that second interview?

Common sense dictates that it would  NOT be (a)

IMO.

[stephen25000]

Assume for instance that SY only had the same summarised non-verbatim statements that we have where Gerry apparently says he went into 5A by the front door using a key and then changed his statement in his next interview to say that he entered via the patio doors.

(a) Do you think SY are going to sit around puzzling and debating amongst themselves over why Gerry would make such an inexplicable claim and trying to fathom out what his reason for doing that would be?

or

(b) Do you think they would ask Gerry himself for an explanation as to why he changed his statement and then ask the Oporto Team to check his explanation with the PJ officers/translator who were present at that second interview?

Common sense dictates that it would  NOT be (a)

IMO.

Or, they hadn't got their 'story' straight.

IMO.

[Mr Gray]

Anything would be better than the nothing offered so far.

Kindly note your opening sentence is a statement of fact, when you have nothing to support this fact.

So here is the truth.  The McCanns may or may not have been interviewed.  It would make sense that they should have.  There is no evidence that they have.

Why would it make sense that the Mccanns have been interviewed?

I think you will find it very dificult to answer this post

[Mr Gray]

You are a lone voice.

Both Brietta and Eleanor have had the good grace to make it clear that it is their opinion that such interviewing has taken place, on the basis that it makes sense that it should.

That is in line with the forum customs, and I am not going to contest such posts.  Both are fully entitled to their opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion too.  And if you made it clear you cannot support such interviews as fact, but it is your opinion that they should have/would have/might have occurred, then this exchange would cease.

So do you have evidence?  Or is it simply your opinion?

I am not a lone voice...you are wrong again..please correct your post...Eleanor feb 16...


Of course The McCanns will have been interviewed.

[Brietta]

Or, they hadn't got their 'story' straight.

IMO.

Interesting you should think that Gerry McCann hadn't got his story straight with Gerry McCann ... tad careless there.

Of course all would have been revealed had Mr Amaral called for a reconstruction at the time when he had enough influence to achieve just that ... nine years down the line it appears as nothing more than posturing in a case in which he hadn't a clue in 2007 and seems determined to confirm he has even less of a clue in 2016.

I think we can guess the theme of his next book.  I'm not sure how much interest there will be even among his fan base from an author unable to reveal more than the time warp in which he is apparently trapped.

[stephen25000]

Interesting you should think that Gerry McCann hadn't got his story straight with Gerry McCann ... tad careless there.

Of course all would have been revealed had Mr Amaral called for a reconstruction at the time when he had enough influence to achieve just that ... nine years down the line it appears as nothing more than posturing in a case in which he hadn't a clue in 2007 and seems determined to confirm he has even less of a clue in 2016.

I think we can guess the theme of his next book.  I'm not sure how much interest there will be even among his fan base from an author unable to reveal more than the time warp in which he is apparently trapped.

I wasn't taking about gerry mccann with gerry mccann .



Edited to remove goading remark

[Mr Gray]

Thank goodness for this.  A small crumb of evidence amid all the verbiage.  By 5 Feb 2012, OG was not at the stage of interviewing anyone, assuming the report is correct.  Whether the McCanns had been interviewed is STILL open to question, but it appears the T7 had not.

'One small step for man ...'

Well done Mercury.

You have made a false assumption..a false speculatiom


where in this report does it say that SY was not at the stage of interviewing anyone...what evidence do you have to support that...none...you are unfortunately now making things up