"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[Brietta]

Just to take one witness back to the real location and have them demonstrate where they walked and where they saw what they saw, is extremely valuable. To take three witnesses back is even more valuable. And that is what the PJ did ,at the Smith sighting diligence in PDL in late May 2007.

The PJ did a similar diligence with just JT, late on 4th May, they got her to show them where she walked, and where she saw what she saw, at the actual location.

The only witness to Jane Tanner's sighting was Jane Tanner.  Therefore only she was of relevance in any reconstruction of what she saw.

The Smith party of nine were dispersed with a gap between each grouping.

At the head of the crocodile was Peter Smith and his family ... two adults and a teenage boy.

Further behind them were the pater and mater familias.

Bringing up the rear was Aoife.

Any reconstruction which did not replicate the actual conditions of lighting and who saw what when by the whole party was fundamentally flawed.

[Brietta]

Where is the evidence for this claim about the  Smiths? They did not make their claims about seeing a many carrying a child until the Mccanns had left Portugal. I was not aware any of the Smiths returned for a reconstruction although am prepared to stand corrected.

Three of them did.

Peter Smith who was walking ahead with his wife and family;  Martin Smith who was behind and walking with his wife Mary;  Aoife Smith who was bringing up the rear.

Unfortunately the Policia Judiciaria were not informed of the sighting until thirteen days after the event.

[pathfinder73]

-The child went to loo after parents left and before first check
-abductor in apartment but clashes with entry via window and shutter which he wouldnt have had time to close on hearing someone coming in to check, and will have been heard too, but if he entered with a key thats different
-Door wasnt more open

What's important to note is between 8:30 and 9 the the T9 were passing it at every 5 minutes. In order:

1. McCanns
2. Tanner
3. Oldfields
4. O'Brien
5. Payne's/Webster
6. Matt leaves at 8:55 and performs a listening check outside window - no sound

Not a good time to try and enter that apartment. The only credible explanation would be Madeleine moving it but when Gerry claimed she was asleep in the same position it seems highly unlikely that happened.

It was definitely ajar when they left according to the McCanns.

"At 20H35, they left the apartment in the direction of the TAPAS. Before they left and because the children's bedroom door was ajar as always, he opened it a little more, listening from the outside and, as there was complete silence he did not enter, returning the door to its previous position, with a space of about 10cm." GM

[pathfinder73]

The only witness to Jane Tanner's sighting was Jane Tanner.  Therefore only she was of relevance in any reconstruction of what she saw.

The Smith party of nine were dispersed with a gap between each grouping.

At the head of the crocodile was Peter Smith and his family ... two adults and a teenage boy.

Further behind them were the pater and mater familias.

Bringing up the rear was Aoife.

Any reconstruction which did not replicate the actual conditions of lighting and who saw what when by the whole party was fundamentally flawed.

This sighting is key. I know it, Amaral knows it and so do SY. Crecheman has been found but not Smithman.

[Brietta]

This sighting is key. I know it, Amaral knows it and so do SY. Crecheman has been found but not Smithman.

That is a matter of opinion.

The fact remains that a full reconstruction / reconstitution or whatever one cares to call it did not take place because key witnesses did not take part ... nor was there any attempt made to replicate as closely as possible the conditions on the night of the sighting.

The PJ only appeared to sit up and take note when Mr Smith changed his statement.  Please do not forget that Mr McCluskey had also changed his statement which reflects Mr Smith's change word for word.

It is a bit rich that the case co-ordinator who had the power to do something about generating a reconstruction at the time Madeleine disappeared didn't bother ... but nine years down the line has decided it is essential???

[Carana]

Emma Knight.

You said:
"The very next night they were cared for and put to bed by a complete stranger, but they didn't seem to mind."

And you've said that that person was Emma Knight. I can't see anything that suggests that she put the twins to bed the next night.

[misty]

You said:
"The very next night they were cared for and put to bed by a complete stranger, but they didn't seem to mind."

And you've said that that person was Emma Knight. I can't see anything that suggests that she put the twins to bed the next night.

Page 93/94 of Madeleine, Carana.

[G-Unit]

You said:
"The very next night they were cared for and put to bed by a complete stranger, but they didn't seem to mind."

And you've said that that person was Emma Knight. I can't see anything that suggests that she put the twins to bed the next night.

Emma had been looking after them and had not long before put them into their cots, but I went in to see them anyway. My need to be with them outweighed any concerns about disrupting their sleep.
Madeleine Page 102



(The apartment was very full when they returned from the police station, 12 people;
mum, dad and Auntie Norah, John Hill, Emma Knights and Craig Mayhew from Mark Warner, Ambassador John Buck, British consul Bill Henderson and Angela Morado, Liz Dow, the British consul for Lisbon, British Embassy press officer Andy Bowes and Alex Woolfall, a PR crisis-management specialist from Bell Pottinger.)

[Carana]

Emma had been looking after them and had not long before put them into their cots, but I went in to see them anyway. My need to be with them outweighed any concerns about disrupting their sleep.
Madeleine Page 102



(The apartment was very full when they returned from the police station, 12 people;
mum, dad and Auntie Norah, John Hill, Emma Knights and Craig Mayhew from Mark Warner, Ambassador John Buck, British consul Bill Henderson and Angela Morado, Liz Dow, the British consul for Lisbon, British Embassy press officer Andy Bowes and Alex Woolfall, a PR crisis-management specialist from Bell Pottinger.)

Thanks. I'd been looking at witness statements.

[jassi]

Emma had been looking after them and had not long before put them into their cots, but I went in to see them anyway. My need to be with them outweighed any concerns about disrupting their sleep.
Madeleine Page 102



(The apartment was very full when they returned from the police station, 12 people;
mum, dad and Auntie Norah, John Hill, Emma Knights and Craig Mayhew from Mark Warner, Ambassador John Buck, British consul Bill Henderson and Angela Morado, Liz Dow, the British consul for Lisbon, British Embassy press officer Andy Bowes and Alex Woolfall, a PR crisis-management specialist from Bell Pottinger.)

That sounds a lot of embassy staff

[G-Unit]

That sounds a lot of embassy staff

It does in a fairly small apartment lol.

[Brietta]

That sounds a lot of embassy staff

Not to mention the spooks lurking about all over the place ...

PJ sem pistas vai ter ajuda das secretas

Alexandra Serôdio, Carlos Varela e Marisa Rodrigues
AP

Três dias depois do desaparecimento da pequena Madeleine do aldeamento Ocean Club, na Praia da Luz, Lagos, a investigação ganha novos reforços, num derradeiro esforço para descobrir a menina de três anos. Ontem, a Polícia Judiciária pediu o auxílio do SIS, que já trabalha em consonância com os serviços de informações espanhóis e britânicos.
Alexandra Serôdio , Carlos Varela and Marisa Rodrigues

Clueless PJ to get secret help
Three days after the disappearance of little Madeleine 's Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz , Lagos , research gains new reinforcements , in a last effort to find the girl of three years. Yesterday, the Judicial Police requested the assistance of the SIS , which already works closely with the Spanish and British intelligence services .


Looks like the Portuguese were 'innit' too.

[Alice Purjorick]

It does in a fairly small apartment lol.

And you'll find them in the kitchen.

[pegasus]

(snip) ... British consul Bill Henderson and Angela Morado, Liz Dow, the British consul for Lisbon, British Embassy press officer Andy Bowes ...

So there were 4 British Embassy staff in apartment 4G on Friday 4th evening.

[jassi]

Not to mention the spooks lurking about all over the place ...

PJ sem pistas vai ter ajuda das secretas

Alexandra Serôdio, Carlos Varela e Marisa Rodrigues

Três dias depois do desaparecimento da pequena Madeleine do aldeamento Ocean Club, na Praia da Luz, Lagos, a investigação ganha novos reforços, num derradeiro esforço para descobrir a menina de três anos. Ontem, a Polícia Judiciária pediu o auxílio do SIS, que já trabalha em consonância com os serviços de informações espanhóis e britânicos.
Alexandra Serôdio , Carlos Varela and Marisa Rodrigues

Clueless PJ to get secret help
Three days after the disappearance of little Madeleine 's Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz , Lagos , research gains new reinforcements , in a last effort to find the girl of three years. Yesterday, the Judicial Police requested the assistance of the SIS , which already works closely with the Spanish and British intelligence services .


Looks like the Portuguese were 'innit' too.

I wonder whether they got it? - or is that a secret ?