"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[Alice Purjorick]

"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night"  I'd like to see if it possible to climb through the opened window?  How high were the shutters up when Kate first saw the situation?

If the shutters were raised in a maintained position then solve how the shutters were held in that position and you are along way down the track toward solving the problem.

[Robittybob1]

If the shutters were raised in a maintained position then solve how the shutters were held in that position and you are along way down the track toward solving the problem.

They are two unrelated issues really for Heriberto demonstrated the shutters could be raised from the exterior.
Sadie's argument was more a matter of the awkwardness of entering or exiting through such a small sized window.

[Robittybob1]

Sadie gave us a lecture a couple of days ago saying it was virtually impossible to climb through that window, therefore it needs to be checked in a reconstruction.  What are they going to reconstruct?  I would like to see a stranger entering the apartment and exiting without coming out through the sliding door.

This from Fiona Payne rogatory:
"Reply    “But I mean they were quite err, the aperture to get through was quite narrow, you know, if you imagine a, a window cut in half, one half slides, you’re left with the small err quite a small opening so I don’t think a large person would get through.”
 
4078    “Would that have been the same for the apartment where Madeleine was sleeping as well?”
 Reply    “Mm. They weren’t large windows.”
 
4078    “Because when you’ve not been there and seen these things you don’t think, I’d never thought about the size of the window before.”
 Reply    “Yeah.”
 
4078    “I assumed it was quite a large window that someone would be easy, it would be easy for somebody to get in and out but that, that’s not the case.”
 Reply    “Well I don’t think so, I mean err a fat person wouldn’t get through put it that way.”

[pathfinder73]

They are two unrelated issues really for Heriberto demonstrated the shutters could be raised from the exterior.
Sadie's argument was more a matter of the awkwardness of entering or exiting through such a small sized window.

There is no evidence of anybody going through that window. It's no wonder the case is still open. They know it's time to separate the the wheat from the chaff!

[Brietta]

There is no evidence of anybody going through that window. It's no wonder the case is still open. They know it's time to separate the the wheat from the chaff!

There may be no evidence that anyone entered or exited via the window of Madeleine's bedroom, but there is photographic evidence that the aperture was large enough to enable a man to get through it.

An officer attempts to enter the apartment through Maddie's bedroom window

[pathfinder73]

The evidence on that window is known. 12+ million is being spent to right those past embarrassing mistakes!

[Robittybob1]

The evidence on that window is known. 12+ million is being spent to right those past embarrassing mistakes!

That is what the UK investigation has cost.  Has anyone from Portugal explained how much the Portuguese have spent?

[Robittybob1]

There may be no evidence that anyone entered or exited via the window of Madeleine's bedroom, but there is photographic evidence that the aperture was large enough to enable a man to get through it.

An officer attempts to enter the apartment through Maddie's bedroom window

Faced with a window like that I might hop up onto the wall and then step onto the window sill, holding the sides of the window frame, turn around and the step down inside the room.  Was the path narrow enough to step from the wall to the window?

[Robittybob1]

But looking at this photo that seems an unlikely method as the window is too short to allow a man to stand on the sill.  Not only that but the path looks quite wide.

https://youtu.be/IeuMzyaCnnY  I would be surprised if the shutters couldn't be raised higher than what Peter Mac is able to here when the pull chord is used.

[Carana]

There may be no evidence that anyone entered or exited via the window of Madeleine's bedroom, but there is photographic evidence that the aperture was large enough to enable a man to get through it.

An officer attempts to enter the apartment through Maddie's bedroom window

Well, tried anyway. Not sure if he managed to or not.

[Robittybob1]

Well, tried anyway. Not sure if he managed to or not.

I might have trouble now but I wonder if a younger person could pop through there.  I'll go there and see if it possible.

[Carana]

I might have trouble now but I wonder if a younger person could pop through there.  I'll go there and see if it possible.

Erm, it's now got a wrought-iron grill over it.

[Robittybob1]

Erm, it's now got a wrought-iron grill over it.

  Get the dimensions and make a frame and climb through it if you can!

[Carana]

There is no evidence of anybody going through that window. It's no wonder the case is still open. They know it's time to separate the the wheat from the chaff!

I agree that there's no tangible evidence that anyone went through it. Or at least none that appears to have been recovered.

Personally, I can't exclude it as impossible, but I'd place it in the unlikely category.

I'd have expected prints on the outside of the window, but I'm not sure the outside of the window was dusted. But if the person had worn gloves, there wouldn't have been any anyway.

There were unidentified prints on the outside of the blind, but that could have been Gerry trying to see if it could be lifted.

I'd have thought that fibres might have been found - but they could have blown away. So that's a "dunno".

I would imagine that there could have been footprints on the bed, but it was messy and I'm not sure if any would have been noticeable. Or on the chair, but it was wicker. Or the person could have been barefoot.

A large man would no doubt have found it difficult, but a child accomplice or small adult wouldn't have done.

[Robittybob1]

I agree that there's no tangible evidence that anyone went through it. Or at least none that appears to have been recovered.

Personally, I can't exclude it as impossible, but I'd place it in the unlikely category.

I'd have expected prints on the outside of the window, but I'm not sure the outside of the window was dusted. But if the person had worn gloves, there wouldn't have been any anyway.

There were unidentified prints on the outside of the blind, but that could have been Gerry trying to see if it could be lifted.

I'd have thought that fibres might have been found - but they could have blown away. So that's a "dunno".

I would imagine that there could have been footprints on the bed, but it was messy and I'm not sure if any would have been noticeable. Or on the chair, but it was wicker. Or the person could have been barefoot.

A large man would no doubt have found it difficult, but a child accomplice or small adult wouldn't have done.

If Madeleine was handed through the window, that could be done without leaving a mark.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9035.msg441668#msg441668