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stephen25000

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Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2016, 09:53:20 AM »

Is there a country in the world where law enforcement don't use efits or publicity to apprehend miscreants?  Carlos Anjos seems to be stuck in some sort of time warp where normal policing methods are to be derided.



News anchor Andreia Vale [AV]:

In the studio with us is Carlos Anjos, CMTV commentator.

Hello Carlos, good afternoon.
Thank you for being here.
This e-fit of an individual, this new "breath" of the [English police] investigation, does it have any credibility in your opinion?

Carlos Anjos [CA], President of the Committee for the Protection of Crime Victims/ former president of the Criminal Investigation Officers' Union of the PJ (ASFIC/PJ)
- Good afternoon. Unfortunately, no. Unfortunately, no.

It seems to me, from the way that this is being carried out, from the standpoint of the criminal investigation to be very unprofessional.

We do have in fact two schools of thought.

We have the school of thought of criminal investigation in Continental Europe that has a particular way of working, where the media is only used to divulge any information when it reaches a dead end and is unable to go further; and the Anglo-Saxon school that uses the media in every way possible...

AV - Often from the outset.

CA - From the outset, precisely, playing on emotions.


For a man who holds such a derisory opinion on the use of media ... he doesn't appear to see the irony in making a very good living from it as a CMTV commentator. (Correio da Manhã TV (CMTV) is a private Portuguese 24-hour news channel operated by Cofina, owner of Correio da Manhã, a notable Portuguese newspaper (tabloid). it is available in basic fiber and satellite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMTV)

In case you haven't noticed, and after several investigations, nothing has been found.

A one sided remit by SY really said everything which needed to be said, about an investigation which is now drawing to it's close, without a single piece of evidence to support abduction above any other scenario.

Contrary to what some might think, the Portuguese are no mugs.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2016, 09:57:20 AM »
The impression, I  get, is that the  SY investigation was set up by whoever ordered it with one point in mind, to protect the mccanns.

It is also now known that police officers including some from SY contributed to Amaral's fund. It is hardly difficult to work out why.

...and Brietta, if you has taken notice, the investigation is grinding to it's inevitable halt.

Stating opinion as fact
There is no evidence members of SY have contributed to the fund

Offline jassi

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2016, 10:01:40 AM »
Stating opinion as fact
There is no evidence members of SY have contributed to the fund

What is it with your petty little points?
Who really cares who contributed to Amaral's defence fund?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2016, 10:10:30 AM »
That is your view of a view from England ... the thread title refers to a view from Portugal on the SY investigation.
Please stay on topic, thank you.

Sorry, Brietta. When I began writing an OG 'whitewash' was being discussed; I was replying to this really;

I believe that there is clearly an attempt to exonerate the couple, the English want to remove any suspicion from the McCann couple. In my opinion, it was never their main goal to find Madeleine McCann. The main objective of the English authorities was to exonerate the parents of Madeleine McCann.
Carlos Anjos.
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2016, 10:23:57 AM »
Sorry, Brietta. When I began writing an OG 'whitewash' was being discussed; I was replying to this really;

I believe that there is clearly an attempt to exonerate the couple, the English want to remove any suspicion from the McCann couple. In my opinion, it was never their main goal to find Madeleine McCann. The main objective of the English authorities was to exonerate the parents of Madeleine McCann.
Carlos Anjos.

well if Carlos says that it must be true...even Pat Brown is admitting the McCanns are innocent

stephen25000

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Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2016, 10:34:27 AM »
What is it with your petty little points?
Who really cares who contributed to Amaral's defence fund?

It really sticks to the craw with some mccann supporters that people including members of the police have donated to Amaral's fund.

Shame.

stephen25000

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Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2016, 10:41:38 AM »
From Pat Brown's site.

'If the Scotland Yard Review is Legitimate, Then the McCanns are Likely Innocent'


Yet the review had one remit.


http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/



As a reminder, I don't believe anyone on here has accused the mccanns of murdering Madeleine.




Offline Benice

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2016, 10:42:14 AM »
Stating opinion as fact
There is no evidence members of SY have contributed to the fund

IIRC in the beginning all kinds of supporters were apparently contributing to the fund - including Clarence Mitchell.  All those names were eventually deleted as they were obviously not true and were done for malicious reasons.

IMO the claim about SY is just more of the same malice.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2016, 10:53:43 AM »
From Pat Brown's site.

'If the Scotland Yard Review is Legitimate, Then the McCanns are Likely Innocent'







Thank you stephen

stephen25000

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Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2016, 10:59:05 AM »
The key word, IF.

There is no evidence that the Mccanns or their associates have been investigated at any time by SY.

It had one remit, 'abduction'.

An open investigation would have looked into all aspects of the case and all logical and possible scenarios.

It has plainly not done that.

The bottom line remains in this case, it has not been determined with evidence how Madeleine 'disappeared' from the apartment.

« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 11:01:15 AM by stephen25000 »

stephen25000

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Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2016, 11:02:38 AM »
IIRC in the beginning all kinds of supporters were apparently contributing to the fund - including Clarence Mitchell.  All those names were eventually deleted as they were obviously not true and were done for malicious reasons.

IMO the claim about SY is just more of the same malice.

Read around Benice.

Why do you not comprehend police officers including, ones from SY, and former officers , have contributed to Amaral's fund ?
« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 11:11:12 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2016, 11:07:18 AM »
Read around Benice.

Why do you not comprehend police officers, and former ones , have contributed to Amaral's fund ?

you said SY,...now you are backtracking as usual

stephen25000

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Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2016, 11:11:35 AM »
Amended. No back track. 8)--))

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2016, 11:38:53 AM »
What is it with your petty little points?
Who really cares who contributed to Amaral's defence fund?

Good questions.
The fund achieved its objective: To ensure Amaral had enough funds to cover the necessary appeals.
An added bonus of course was that the initial ruling was overturned.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A view from Portugal on the SY investigation
« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2016, 11:43:50 AM »
Amended. No back track. 8)--))

and still no cite...so only your opinion...[moderated]
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