The Tapas Bookings

[pegasus]

Why should you assume that the translator was wrong, rather than RO ?

Gerry did say, in his first statement, that he had accessed the apartment via a key, so perhaps the shutters were down, just as RO said.

Was this the reason Kate was so adamant that Madeleine could not have wandered?

OK let's assume the metal shutters of the lounge balcony door were closed all evening, and the checks were via the wooden door.

That scenario would mean that the child, by whatever means, left the apartment via the wooden door.

[jassi]

OK let's assume the metal shutters of the lounge balcony door were closed all evening, and the checks were via the wooden door.

That scenario would mean that the child, by whatever means, left the apartment via the wooden door.

Only if she left of her own volition. If she was removed by an adult, she could have left from north or south door.

[pegasus]

Only if she left of her own volition. If she was removed by an adult, she could have left from north or south door.

If the shutters of the lounge balcony door were down, exit that way by anyone (child or adult) would be impossible without raising one of its shutters.

[jassi]

If the shutters of the lounge balcony door were down, exit that way by anyone (child or adult) would be impossible without raising one of its shutters.

Agreed.

[mercury]

OK let's assume the metal shutters of the lounge balcony door were closed all evening, and the checks were via the wooden door.

That scenario would mean that the child, by whatever means, left the apartment via the wooden door.

The front door was probably not/not locked according to the mccann statements, so all it would take is the child to open the door usng the handle, I must add I find this also irresponsible and bizarre if you dont mind me saying!

[faithlilly]

The front door was probably not/not locked according to the mccann statements, so all it would take is the child to open the door usng the handle, I must add I find this also irresponsible and bizarre if you dont mind me saying!

They left the patio doors unlocked and didn't even check whether the window or front door were unlocked too. Could there be a more irresponsible set of, allegedly , intelligent parents ?

[pegasus]

They left the patio doors unlocked and didn't even check whether the window or front door were unlocked too. Could there be a more irresponsible set of, allegedly , intelligent parents ?

They would have remembered if they deadlocked the main door.
If not deadlocked, it can easily be opened from inside by a 3 yr old.

[G-Unit]

What does Kate McCann have to say about the Tapas booking? No mention of a tall man, Rachael is the one who told the receptionist they were leaving the children alone. Hand on heart it never crossed Kate's mind that leaving the children alone was a bad idea. Well, that's true. According to some she didn't want to go if there was no listening service, so she was committed to leaving the children alone right from the start. She emphasises
that it was a joint decision, but not when it was decided. It was decided because the restaurant was so near. If it was decided before they went could they have known the layout before they went? Could they have known where they were going to be housed? Without knowing that, how could they have been able to decide to create their own listening service?


Today [Sunday] we’d been able to make a dinner reservation for the adult contingent at the poolside Tapas restaurant. Apparently, this restaurant, a canopied outdoor addition to the bar, catered for only up to fifteen diners in the evenings, and reservations could not be made until the morning of the day in question.....As the restaurant was so near, we collectively decided to do our own child-checking service. This decision, one that we all made,....Speaking for myself, I can say, hand on heart, that it never once crossed my mind that this might not be a safe option.....In spite of what we’d been told about booking the Tapas restaurant, Rachael managed to get a table for nine at 8.30pm pencilled in for the rest of the week after having a word with the receptionist at thepool and Tapas area.....the receptionist had added the reason for our request: we wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently
Madeleine Kate McCann

[Brietta]

What does Kate McCann have to say about the Tapas booking? No mention of a tall man, Rachael is the one who told the receptionist they were leaving the children alone. Hand on heart it never crossed Kate's mind that leaving the children alone was a bad idea. Well, that's true. According to some she didn't want to go if there was no listening service, so she was committed to leaving the children alone right from the start. She emphasises
that it was a joint decision, but not when it was decided. It was decided because the restaurant was so near. If it was decided before they went could they have known the layout before they went? Could they have known where they were going to be housed? Without knowing that, how could they have been able to decide to create their own listening service?


Today [Sunday] we’d been able to make a dinner reservation for the adult contingent at the poolside Tapas restaurant. Apparently, this restaurant, a canopied outdoor addition to the bar, catered for only up to fifteen diners in the evenings, and reservations could not be made until the morning of the day in question.....As the restaurant was so near, we collectively decided to do our own child-checking service. This decision, one that we all made,....Speaking for myself, I can say, hand on heart, that it never once crossed my mind that this might not be a safe option.....In spite of what we’d been told about booking the Tapas restaurant, Rachael managed to get a table for nine at 8.30pm pencilled in for the rest of the week after having a word with the receptionist at thepool and Tapas area.....the receptionist had added the reason for our request: we wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently
Madeleine Kate McCann

I wonder if someone else who managed to squeeze into the tapas restaurant despite a whole table being commandeered by a party of nine (WOW ... how the mind boggles at the selfishness of that!!) might have been taking a close note of the comings and goings from that table.

I would have been much more interested in fleshing out the information in the files regarding the booking forms and other diners ~ I think the police have sorted out the tapas nine and their comings and goings long since.
Who knows who else was dining ... and who may have been watching and taking note.

Even the Amaral investigation had checked it out and could pin nothing on them despite infamous "inconsistencies".

[Miss Taken Identity]

I wonder if someone else who managed to squeeze into the tapas restaurant despite a whole table being commandeered by a party of nine (WOW ... how the mind boggles at the selfishness of that!!) might have been taking a close note of the comings and goings from that table.

I would have been much more interested in fleshing out the information in the files regarding the booking forms and other diners ~ I think the police have sorted out the tapas nine and their comings and goings long since.
Who knows who else was dining ... and who may have been watching and taking note.

Even the Amaral investigation had checked it out and could pin nothing on them despite infamous "inconsistencies".

I don't think many people's mind will be boggling, trying to establish just how selfigh these Tapas people were/ still are. IMO

The inconsistances are not made up brietta, all there for people to read, so no need to put that word in "".

The fact is: they didned there and lft their children alone that is the crux of this story.

[Brietta]

I don't think many people's mind will be boggling, trying to establish just how selfigh these Tapas people were/ still are. IMO

The inconsistances are not made up brietta, all there for people to read, so no need to put that word in "".

The fact is: they didned there and lft their children alone that is the crux of this story.

We know they dined there.  What we don't know is, did the abductor or any of his/her associates dine there also.

The restaurant was a logical observation point.   
Could have been so much more convenient to sit down to a quiet meal and reconnoitre movements from the McCann table than having to lurk about outside.

[stephen25000]

We know they dined there.  What we don't know is, did the abductor or any of his/her associates dine there also.

The restaurant was a logical observation point.   
Could have been so much more convenient to sit down to a quiet meal and reconnoitre movements from the McCann table than having to lurk about outside.

Here you go again, abductor, and not a shred of evidence to support it above any other scenario.

[Brietta]

Here you go again, abductor, and not a shred of evidence to support it above any other scenario.

Even Sharon Osbourne, the new truth speaker, believes Madeleine was abducted.  What better location was there for an abductor to sit and observe the movements of the McCann party than from another table in the tapas restaurant.
Quite a relaxed and logical thing to do. In My Opinion, of course.

[Alice Purjorick]

We know they dined there.  What we don't know is, did the abductor or any of his/her associates dine there also.

The restaurant was a logical observation point.   
Could have been so much more convenient to sit down to a quiet meal and reconnoitre movements from the McCann table than having to lurk about outside.

Is the gang having a reccy inside the Tapas Bar the same as the gang which had a reccy by standing on corners watching or the gang that had a reccy knocking on doors or a composite of all three?

Were there actually any tourists in Luz that week?

[stephen25000]

Even Sharon Osbourne, the new truth speaker, believes Madeleine was abducted.  What better location was there for an abductor to sit and observe the movements of the McCann party than from another table in the tapas restaurant.
Quite a relaxed and logical thing to do. In My Opinion, of course.

Yet she doesn't say abduction.

Now Brietta, how much does she know about the case ?

Any ideas ?