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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #150 on: June 09, 2016, 07:10:54 PM »
Made it sound like fact?  how do you do that then?

 I never heard anyone who has read the book think they were reading about the 'McCanns dunit' They managed to establish it was a thesis based on an enquiry. But, oh well, if you didn't get that then then he should be hang by the neck till he be dead... Or perhaps you should get someone to read it as it should be read- As a Thesis!

Amaral states things as facts
He does not talk about a thesis

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #151 on: June 09, 2016, 07:14:19 PM »
Amaral states things as facts
He does not talk about a thesis

Only in supporters heads, other people like myself know it to be a Thesis. Not one I agree with I have to say, but I still see it as it is.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #152 on: June 09, 2016, 07:16:32 PM »
Only in supporters heads, other people like myself know it to be a Thesis. Not one I agree with I have to say, but I still see it as it is.

Could you tell us where in his book he uses the word thesis
Have you seen the start of the documentary

Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #153 on: June 09, 2016, 07:26:41 PM »
The Book is called "The Truth of the Lie" for god sake!  What does 'the truth' mean in this instance?  It's only a thesis about the truth?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #154 on: June 09, 2016, 07:34:14 PM »
The Book is called "The Truth of the Lie" for god sake!  What does 'the truth' mean in this instance?  It's only a thesis about the truth?

So?
Your point being ?
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Offline jassi

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #155 on: June 09, 2016, 07:52:22 PM »
Truth is simply what one chooses to believe is true.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #156 on: June 09, 2016, 08:39:02 PM »
A book that purports to tell the truth cannot also be a thesis.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #157 on: June 09, 2016, 11:29:14 PM »
A book that purports to tell the truth cannot also be a thesis.
What did the appeal court find on this point?  The book is a theorem, that largely reflects the thinking when Amaral was removed.
What's up, old man?

Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #158 on: June 09, 2016, 11:51:16 PM »
What did the appeal court find on this point?  The book is a theorem, that largely reflects the thinking when Amaral was removed.
He should have picked a more equivocal title then, the unpleasant little man - that's my opinion btw, so no need to ask for a cite.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #159 on: June 10, 2016, 07:54:41 AM »
He should have picked a more equivocal title then, the unpleasant little man - that's my opinion btw, so no need to ask for a cite.

I don't know what you think the title means, but I found an explanation by a Portuguese person;

Hi I'm Portuguese and the title is Truth of the Lie. This is an old phrase in Portuguese which basically means every lie has some truth and when you find the truth of the lie, you're extracting the truthful part of a deceptive story. That's the best way I can explain it. It makes perfect sense in Portuguese.
http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/maddie-truth-of-lie.html
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #160 on: June 10, 2016, 07:57:30 AM »
I don't know what you think the title means, but I found an explanation by a Portuguese person;

Hi I'm Portuguese and the title is Truth of the Lie. This is an old phrase in Portuguese which basically means every lie has some truth and when you find the truth of the lie, you're extracting the truthful part of a deceptive story. That's the best way I can explain it. It makes perfect sense in Portuguese.
http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/maddie-truth-of-lie.html

which deceptive story would that be......

Offline Benice

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #161 on: June 10, 2016, 08:11:46 AM »
You really walked into this one Benice. 8)--))


Nigel Nessling, devout mccann supporter.

Just for starters.

Claims that Madeleine signifies the second coming of Christ.

https://nigelnessling.wordpress.com/madeleine-and-rennes-le-chateau-part-3/


Thankyou for the link. 

I am not a Christian but as far as I know Armageddon and the  'second coming' are believed by billions of people worldwide who do not consider themselves to be part of a cult.

The subject of the article is Armageddon and is an interesting observation of modern day  'major events'  in the world which the author relates and connects to the prophecies in the Bible regarding the apocalypse and the 2nd coming.

Madeleine's case can without doubt be described as a 'major event' as it is known about worldwide (and is still being discussed 10 years later) -  and in the opinion of the author is another example of those events which he believes bear out those biblical prophecies.

As I said I am not a Christian so it doesn't work for me.     But as the author is obviously  a committed christian who believes in the Bible I can see where he is coming from.     IMO his theory is intriguing, very well-researched and is backed up with cites.   Whether it is correct or not - is matter of opinion. 

However,  there is nothing in the article which even hints that any of the McCann family should be worshipped - or compared to God.   

   AIMHO
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #162 on: June 10, 2016, 08:13:22 AM »
I don't know what you think the title means, but I found an explanation by a Portuguese person;

Hi I'm Portuguese and the title is Truth of the Lie. This is an old phrase in Portuguese which basically means every lie has some truth and when you find the truth of the lie, you're extracting the truthful part of a deceptive story. That's the best way I can explain it. It makes perfect sense in Portuguese.
http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/maddie-truth-of-lie.html
And your point is?

stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #163 on: June 10, 2016, 08:17:50 AM »

Thankyou for the link. 

I am not a Christian but as far as I know Armageddon and the  'second coming' are believed by billions of people worldwide who do not consider themselves to be part of a cult.

The subject of the article is Armageddon and is an interesting observation of modern day  'major events'  in the world which the author relates and connects to the prophecies in the Bible regarding the apocalypse and the 2nd coming.

Madeleine's case can without doubt be described as a 'major event' as it is known about worldwide (and is still being discussed 10 years later) -  and in the opinion of the author is another example of those events which he believes bear out those biblical prophecies.

As I said I am not a Christian so it doesn't work for me.     But as the author is obviously  a committed christian who believes in the Bible I can see where he is coming from.     IMO his theory is intriguing, very well-researched and is backed up with cites.   Whether it is correct or not - is matter of opinion. 

However,  there is nothing in the article which even hints that any of the McCann family should be worshipped - or compared to God.   

   AIMHO

How do you know he is a Christian ?

Placing Madeleine as the subject of the second coming clearly involves her parents as does the implied link, if you read his other 'material' , where he believes he  and others are descendants of Jesus.

Personally, I find this material quite disturbing.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #164 on: June 10, 2016, 08:20:26 AM »
And your point is?

No point, just an answer to your post 153.
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