Author Topic: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?  (Read 55706 times)

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Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #225 on: June 10, 2016, 11:06:48 PM »
Have you actually seen  the amount of money that has been donated to the fund in recent years ?

I can't see that total rising substantially now the public know the money is not being used specifically for the search.
Have the McCanns been actively soliciting funding for the last few years?  In any case I wasn't talking about masses of small donations to help them pursue Amaral for libel in the event of an abductor being found guilty of Madeleine's disappearance, just that there are I'm sure a few benfactors that might be happy to help them out.

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #226 on: June 10, 2016, 11:08:18 PM »
Yes when people say things such as...

Good point

No one in any officialdom has said this, (in fact at least two officialdoms have said something different) just posters on the internet, so it is just an anonymous opinion/belief touted as some kind of truth, with no basis in fact ergo worthless, surely thats against forum rules

Ergo davels post is false and misleading ie there is no evidence that thenmccanns are "innocent" None at all


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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #227 on: June 10, 2016, 11:11:03 PM »
Have the McCanns been actively soliciting funding for the last few years?  In any case I wasn't talking about masses of small donations to help them pursue Amaral for libel in the event of an abductor being found guilty of Madeleine's disappearance, just that there are I'm sure a few benfactors that might be happy to help them out.

Yes they have donate £ buttons in their website
http://shop.findmadeleine.com


THe days of "benefactors" are long gone now
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #228 on: June 10, 2016, 11:13:33 PM »
Have the McCanns been actively soliciting funding for the last few years?  In any case I wasn't talking about masses of small donations to help them pursue Amaral for libel in the event of an abductor being found guilty of Madeleine's disappearance, just that there are I'm sure a few benfactors that might be happy to help them out.

Under present circumstances why are you so sure?
Is that belief based on something tangible or is it just your opinion?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #229 on: June 10, 2016, 11:27:18 PM »
Have the McCanns been actively soliciting funding for the last few years?  In any case I wasn't talking about masses of small donations to help them pursue Amaral for libel in the event of an abductor being found guilty of Madeleine's disappearance, just that there are I'm sure a few benfactors that might be happy to help them out.

Really ? Then why are they using the fund ATM ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #230 on: June 10, 2016, 11:28:14 PM »
Really ? Then why are they using the fund ATM ?
Because they can, and because there are sufficient funds I expect.

Offline mercury

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #231 on: June 10, 2016, 11:56:14 PM »
Because they can, and because there are sufficient funds I expect.

Gambling money, sad that they gamble it and dont spend it properly dont you think!

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #232 on: June 11, 2016, 01:15:28 AM »
Because they can, and because there are sufficient funds I expect.

So do you think that even though they have someone willing to foot their legal bills they are still using the fund meant to pay investigators to look for their child to do this?

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #233 on: June 11, 2016, 07:00:42 AM »
Because they can, and because there are sufficient funds I expect.

A 'friend' suggested that the Fund could be decimated if they lose their appeal. Was that a not so subtle plea for help? Time will tell if anyone responded I expect. One thing they can't hide is how much is in the Fund at the end of each financial year, even when they supply the least allowable information.

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Offline xtina

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #234 on: June 11, 2016, 07:56:59 AM »
Lets hope it's put in the fiction section, because that is what it is 'sweetheart'.

Glad then are you that the police investigation has been whittled  down into a book full of twisted facts and innuendos, so as to line an ex policeman's pocket and blacken the name of the parents of a missing child.  It has done its worse now,  as some people believed it and no doubt a lot of people think Madeleine is dead, and who knows what information may have been handed in by people who may have read his book and decided not to bother as Amaral said she was dead. 

What an embarrassment he must be to the detectives who are working along side SY trying to find out what has happened to Madeleine,  and who have not questioned the McCann's proving that they are not following Amaral's theory.

no you are wrong there ............G A ....didn't have to blacken there name they did that all by themselves

you seem to except things very easily regarding the mccs ...

to even think that anyone reading the book would be brain washed into stop looking for maddie...or not report any info they had ... 8**8:/:

.the people reading the book i would say were doubters anyway...but can make up there own minds....

after all ....the only thing usually published is...abduction ...abduction sightings ....suspects ...etc etc....

and as for G A being an embarrassment ....what would you call below....a pic of maddie two and a half...and if you didn't know different you would think it was a lottery cheque ..they were holding up ......

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lWXrpwC28yU/SyS0o5iTePI/AAAAAAAAHKU/X6PbCmsGNdQ/s1600/Gerry+McCann,+Kate+McCann+and+Brian+Ashton.jpg
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Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #235 on: June 11, 2016, 08:23:54 AM »
So do you think that even though they have someone willing to foot their legal bills they are still using the fund meant to pay investigators to look for their child to do this?
dMaybe, who knows?  Perhaps they don't like to ask or take offers of help until or unless the situation gets desperate.

stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #236 on: June 11, 2016, 08:45:18 AM »
dMaybe, who knows?  Perhaps they don't like to ask or take offers of help until or unless the situation gets desperate.

Perhaps they should pay from their own work earnings and not other peoples.

Offline Lace

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #237 on: June 11, 2016, 08:50:50 AM »
no you are wrong there ............G A ....didn't have to blacken there name they did that all by themselves

you seem to except things very easily regarding the mccs ...

to even think that anyone reading the book would be brain washed into stop looking for maddie...or not report any info they had ... 8**8:/:

.the people reading the book i would say were doubters anyway...but can make up there own minds....

after all ....the only thing usually published is...abduction ...abduction sightings ....suspects ...etc etc....

and as for G A being an embarrassment ....what would you call below....a pic of maddie two and a half...and if you didn't know different you would think it was a lottery cheque ..they were holding up ......

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lWXrpwC28yU/SyS0o5iTePI/AAAAAAAAHKU/X6PbCmsGNdQ/s1600/Gerry+McCann,+Kate+McCann+and+Brian+Ashton.jpg

Tell me how their name was blackened  to the extent of being accused of knowing someone was lying about knowing where Madeleine was?    That is absolutely disgusting,  and hinting to the readers that Gerry knew where Madeleine was because he had hidden her.     Tell me how their name was blackened before the book with regard to the Calpol,  letting readers imagine they drugged their children to make them sleep,  when that type of Calpol was not a sedative,  the sleep Calpol wasn't on the market until the September.   Tell me how they blackened  their name before the book came out,    to the extent that Amaral hinted at -  swinging,  drugging,  lying,  hiding Madeleine's body,  being cold and uncaring.   

The leaving them alone had been investigated and sorted there was 'no intent'  eg they did not want anything to happen to Madeleine they thought she was safe.

You say people reading the book were doubters anyway,  well I wasn't and I read it.   Don't you understand what a difference it would have made coming from the Police Officer that had been the co-ordinator of the investigation?   He wasn't just an ordinary member of the public writing a book was he.

Madeleine wasn't 2 and a half in that picture,  it was a photo of her from the Christmas before so she was 3 and 7 months.    It was to help the search for Madeleine,  would you have come up with a better idea in which to get her face circulated and remembered in peoples minds?

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #238 on: June 11, 2016, 09:31:54 AM »
Tell me how their name was blackened  to the extent of being accused of knowing someone was lying about knowing where Madeleine was?    That is absolutely disgusting,  and hinting to the readers that Gerry knew where Madeleine was because he had hidden her.     Tell me how their name was blackened before the book with regard to the Calpol,  letting readers imagine they drugged their children to make them sleep,  when that type of Calpol was not a sedative,  the sleep Calpol wasn't on the market until the September.   Tell me how they blackened  their name before the book came out,    to the extent that Amaral hinted at -  swinging,  drugging,  lying,  hiding Madeleine's body,  being cold and uncaring.   

The leaving them alone had been investigated and sorted there was 'no intent'  eg they did not want anything to happen to Madeleine they thought she was safe.

You say people reading the book were doubters anyway,  well I wasn't and I read it.   Don't you understand what a difference it would have made coming from the Police Officer that had been the co-ordinator of the investigation?   He wasn't just an ordinary member of the public writing a book was he.

Madeleine wasn't 2 and a half in that picture,  it was a photo of her from the Christmas before so she was 3 and 7 months.    It was to help the search for Madeleine,  would you have come up with a better idea in which to get her face circulated and remembered in peoples minds?

The leaving them alone had been investigated and sorted there was 'no intent'  eg they did not want anything to happen to Madeleine they thought she was safe.

they thought it safe.....like when she left the twins after maddie had gone ....she thought it safe ....

like when they put twins in creche ,,,they thought it safe ...

even going out the country and leaving twins ..she thought it safe ...

only difference ...according to her there was an abductor....[could have been one of the staff]

but she still thought it safe ....that is because ...it was....
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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #239 on: June 11, 2016, 09:36:22 AM »
and no relevance to Portuguese Law.


You appear to have missed the point I was making.

My post was in reply to G-units post

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At the moment I think it might be libelous to accuse Amaral of libel. He can, at the moment, prove that he did no such thing under the laws of his country.
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I pointed out that in the UK -  under our own laws -  'Innuendo' can be considered to be defamatory and IMO it is not libelous in this country for posters to point out the examples of such 'innuendo' in Amarals book.

If  - as G-unit believes  - it may be breaking the libel laws of this country to do that - then an explanation as to which part of our Libel law is being broken needs to be explained.

I am no 'legal eagle' and am quite happy to cease commenting on this subject if it is breaking our libel laws to do so.   At the moment I do not believe it is.

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