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Offline mercury

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #135 on: June 03, 2016, 02:38:31 AM »
Has Robert Murat been cleared?  Yes he has.
When was his arguido status lifted?  at the same time as that of the McCanns.

Think of the arguido status as the equivalent of being questioned under caution.  They were not charged with any offence ... therefore they have been cleared.
I dont  thnk so somehow that it means cleared of suspicion if arguido status is lifted, not at all

Perhaps montclair SIL or other PT knowledgable people  can help here

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #136 on: June 03, 2016, 06:43:32 AM »
I dont  thnk so somehow that it means cleared of suspicion if arguido status is lifted, not at all

Perhaps montclair SIL or other PT knowledgable people  can help here

If it is equivalent to being questioned under caution then "being cleared" doesn't enter into not.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #137 on: June 03, 2016, 07:30:17 AM »
If it is equivalent to being questioned under caution then "being cleared" doesn't enter into not.

Being cleared doesn't really have a precise legal definition so the fact taht they are now not suspects could be taken as being cleared...depends how you define it...has Barry Geerge been cleared...some would say yes ...some would say no

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #138 on: June 03, 2016, 09:37:37 AM »
Harrison said nothing of the kind.

Harrison was handed a brief by the PJ to investigate that Madeleine had been murdered and worked to it.

That is reality not fantasy.

Stranger Danger?

Of all children under age 5 murdered from 1976-2005 —

31% were killed by fathers
29% were killed by mothers
23% were killed by male acquaintances
7% were killed by other relatives
3% were killed by strangers

Missing Children?

When you hear about all the “missing children” remember: There is approximately one child abduction murder for every 10,000 reports of a missing child. (Source: Polly Klaas Foundation.)

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbse&sid=31
http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/
« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 09:40:22 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

stephen25000

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Re: Libel ...
« Reply #139 on: June 03, 2016, 09:53:07 AM »
That is reality not fantasy.

Stranger Danger?

Of all children under age 5 murdered from 1976-2005 —

31% were killed by fathers
29% were killed by mothers
23% were killed by male acquaintances
7% were killed by other relatives
3% were killed by strangers

Missing Children?

When you hear about all the “missing children” remember: There is approximately one child abduction murder for every 10,000 reports of a missing child. (Source: Polly Klaas Foundation.)

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbse&sid=31
http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/

Thank you for that Pathfinder.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #140 on: June 03, 2016, 09:58:46 AM »
That is reality not fantasy.

Stranger Danger?

Of all children under age 5 murdered from 1976-2005 —

31% were killed by fathers
29% were killed by mothers
23% were killed by male acquaintances
7% were killed by other relatives
3% were killed by strangers

Missing Children?

When you hear about all the “missing children” remember: There is approximately one child abduction murder for every 10,000 reports of a missing child. (Source: Polly Klaas Foundation.)

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbse&sid=31
http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/

as no one is suggesting the mccanns killed maddie theses figures are totally irrelevant.....one child abduction per 10,000 missing children......this shows how unlucky maddie and her family were

Offline jassi

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #141 on: June 03, 2016, 10:03:53 AM »
as no one is suggesting the mccanns killed maddie theses figures are totally irrelevant.....one child abduction per 10,000 missing children......this shows how unlucky maddie and her family were

Indeed, almost unbelievable.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #142 on: June 03, 2016, 10:12:28 AM »
Indeed, almost unbelievable.

absolutely...the odds are tens of millions to one...that's why they thought it was safe

stephen25000

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #143 on: June 03, 2016, 10:23:30 AM »


There is no excuse for leaving your children for several hours, with infrequent checks, in any country, where you don't know the language.

As to abduction, it remains one of several possible scenarios, none of which have any evidence to charge anyone.

What I will never understand, is those making excuses for the inexcusable.

When you decide to have children, it is your responsibility to take care of them and keep them as safe as possible.

ferryman

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #144 on: June 03, 2016, 10:25:32 AM »

There is no excuse for leaving your children for several hours, with infrequent checks, in any country, where you don't know the language.

As to abduction, it remains one of several possible scenarios, none of which have any evidence to charge anyone.

What I will never understand, is those making excuses for the inexcusable.

When you decide to have children, it is your responsibility to take care of them and keep them as safe as possible.

That'll be why a woman in England, who left a child strapped in to the seat of a car for 10 hours was acquitted (on charges of neglect).

stephen25000

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #145 on: June 03, 2016, 10:31:56 AM »
That'll be why a woman in England, who left a child strapped in to the seat of a car for 10 hours was acquitted (on charges of neglect).

It was neglect.

Pure and simple.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Libel ....
« Reply #146 on: June 03, 2016, 10:38:08 AM »
It was neglect.

Pure and simple.

in your opinion

Offline John

Re: Libel ....
« Reply #147 on: June 03, 2016, 10:40:30 AM »
That'll be why a woman in England, who left a child strapped in to the seat of a car for 10 hours was acquitted (on charges of neglect).

Seems the exception rather than the rule, do you have a link to this case?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline jassi

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #148 on: June 03, 2016, 10:55:04 AM »
absolutely...the odds are tens of millions to one...that's why they thought it was safe


That's why it's almost unbelievable  - the odds  are on it not being abduction.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Benice

Re: Libel ...
« Reply #149 on: June 03, 2016, 10:58:08 AM »

That's why it's almost unbelievable  - the odds  are on it not being abduction.


Tell that to Kerry Needham.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal