Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.

[faithlilly]

Willing, yes.

And if I do, I shall use a reputable crowd-funding platform such as justgiving

Are you willing to set it up ?

[ferryman]

Are you willing to set it up ?

I already have a justgiving page (used for other purposes).

[faithlilly]

I already have a justgiving page (used for other purposes).

Excellent ! So you know how it works and setting up another account specifically to help the McCanns pay their legal bills, if it comes to that, shouldn't be too much trouble.

[Benice]

It is a good idea isn't it Alfie. Strange no supporter has thought of it before. As to setting up an account myself of course I would if only to ensure that the fund wasn't drained but unfortunately being a committed sceptic I'm not sure I'd be the right person to front such a venture. You, on the other hand,  or perhaps Brietta, misty, Carana or Benice would be a much better choice. Surely any one of you would jump at the chance to make a real difference to the search for Madeleine ?

Why would another fund be necessary when anyone can already donate to the existing fund.   I shall happily donate if necessary - as I have no problem at all with how the McCanns would choose to use my donation.

Faith - do you think a separate Justgiving fund would be allowed to operate without the attention of those sceptics who would pay just for the gleeful pleasure of posting their poison?    I don't.   

[ferryman]

Excellent ! So you know how it works and setting up another account specifically to help the McCanns pay their legal bills, if it comes to that, shouldn't be too much trouble.

Correct.

[faithlilly]

Why would another fund be necessary when anyone can already donate to the existing fund.   I shall happily donate if necessary - as I have no problem at all with how the McCanns would choose to use my donation.

Faith - do you think a separate Justgiving fund would be allowed to operate without the attention of those sceptics who would pay just for the gleeful pleasure of posting their poison?    I don't.

You may not have any problem with how the couple choose to use your donation to the fund Benice but there are many that do and it is those individuals who would be reassured that their donation was going to the actual search rather than the McCann's legal bills if another mechanism was set up to specifically pay for those legal bills.

As to your second paragraph the possibility that the spectics would use a Justgiving page to 'post their poison' didn't stop both Kate and Gerry setting up just such a page to raise money for MP so why should it be a deterrent to the supporters now ?

[faithlilly]

Correct.

Marvellous !

[G-Unit]

Why would another fund be necessary when anyone can already donate to the existing fund.   I shall happily donate if necessary - as I have no problem at all with how the McCanns would choose to use my donation.

Faith - do you think a separate Justgiving fund would be allowed to operate without the attention of those sceptics who would pay just for the gleeful pleasure of posting their poison?    I don't.

The problem with the existing fund is whether paying legal fees and costs for failed litigation is in line with it's stated aims. That's a decision for all the directors, not just two of them.

Is there really a need for the hyperbole? It gets quite boring after a while.

[Benice]

You may not have any problem with how the couple choose to use your donation to the fund Benice but there are many that do and it is those individuals who would be reassured that their donation was going to the actual search rather than the McCann's legal bills if another mechanism was set up to specifically pay for those legal bills.

As to your second paragraph the possibility that the spectics would use a Justgiving page to 'post their poison' didn't stop both Kate and Gerry setting up just such a page to raise money for MP so why should it be a deterrent to the supporters now ?

IMO the people who criticise how donations to the fund are used -  are those who have never donated in the first place.   Nitpicking of the fund has just become another stick for sceptics to beat the McCanns with IMO.

There is a vast difference between the McCanns raising money for MP and the McCanns raising money for their own legal fees - although  IIRC even that didn't stop some sceptics from attempting to use the site to abuse the McCanns.     IMO any such site would be bombarded with sceptics - and it would take 24/7 monitoring to deal with them.    So why bother -  when there is already a perfectly good alternative.

[Benice]

The problem with the existing fund is whether paying legal fees and costs for failed litigation is in line with it's stated aims. That's a decision for all the directors, not just two of them.

Is there really a need for the hyperbole? It gets quite boring after a while.

The only 'problems' with the fund are those perceived by sceptics IMO .     In 9 years no-one in authority has found fault with how the fund has been managed or used.     That's good enough for me.

[faithlilly]

IMO the people who criticise how donations to the fund are used -  are those who have never donated in the first place.   Nitpicking of the fund has just become another stick for sceptics to beat the McCanns with IMO.

There is a vast difference between the McCanns raising money for MP and the McCanns raising money for their own legal fees - although  IIRC even that didn't stop some sceptics from attempting to use the site to abuse the McCanns.     IMO any such site would be bombarded with sceptics - and it would take 24/7 monitoring to deal with them.    So why bother -  when there is already a perfectly good alternative.

Firstly I was not advocating that the McCanns themselves raise money for their legal fees but rather that the supporters who place such hope in Madeleine being a findable child actually do something to actively help.

Secondly if OG is shelved the McCanns will need every penny they can raise to continue the search for their daughter and no matter what way you look at it by paying the court costs for their ill advised litigation they will seriously damage their ability to fund that search. Are you happy that in the final reckoning it may actually come down to either paying for private investigators or Amaral et al's court costs ?

[Benice]

Firstly I was not advocating that the McCanns themselves raise money for their legal fees but rather that the supporters who place such hope in Madeleine being a findable child actually do something to actively help.

Secondly if OG is shelved the McCanns will need every penny they can raise to continue the search for their daughter and no matter what way you look at it by paying the court costs for their ill advised litigation they will seriously damage their ability to fund that search. Are you happy that in the final reckoning it may actually come down to either paying for private investigators or Amaral et al's court costs ?

Oh come on Faith - it wouldn't matter who set up a public fund to raise money for the McCanns legal expenses - the result would be the same.   But I'm sure you already know that.

As we have only just been informed about the appeal, I would rather wait to see what the outcome is before making predictions about the future.

[mercury]

What is name-tarnishing about supporting truth and justice for an innocent, put-upon couple hovering between hope and grief for their lost daughter?

Its called risk when the facts are unknown, tut

[faithlilly]

Oh come on Faith - it wouldn't matter who set up a public fund to raise money for the McCanns legal expenses - the result would be the same.   But I'm sure you already know that.

As we have only just been informed about the appeal, I would rather wait to see what the outcome is before making predictions about the future.

'The result would ge the same ' ? Not sure what you mean.

To be honest I always get the feeling with supporters that while they are quite willing to sit on forums like this and defend every questionable action of the McCanns they actually do precious little to actively help find Madeleine. When was the last time any supporter on here actually did some fundraising for the NSU fund ?

[stephen25000]

'The result would ge the same ' ? Not sure what you mean.

To be honest I always get the feeling with supporters that while they are quite willing to sit on forums like this and defend every questionable action of the McCanns they actually do precious little to actively help find Madeleine. When was the last time any supporter on here actually did some fundraising for the NSU fund ?

Quite right.

They seem all mouth and no trousers.