Author Topic: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.  (Read 37477 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #120 on: February 01, 2017, 02:28:14 PM »
Just get over it. McCanns lost big time. Anything else is irrelevant.

there is a little girl still missing...that is not irrelevant

Alfie

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #121 on: February 01, 2017, 03:10:29 PM »
It's strange you and your fellow supporters where four square behind the McCanns in this action. That is until they lost.
I would have done exactly the same as them.

Alfie

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #122 on: February 01, 2017, 03:15:23 PM »
One might have felt a little sympathy if they had accepted the Appeal Court judgement, but the lure of half a million euro within their grasp drove them on.

They lost Tough.
So as far as you're concerned it was only ever about the money?  This is what I mean about doubters who have neither the imagination nor the empathy to put themselves into the  position of someone in such an invidfious situation because they refuse to accept the possibility that the McCanns might actually be innocent of Amaral's accusations.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #123 on: February 01, 2017, 03:53:20 PM »
Were I them I would endeavour to pay the court costs in full or come to an agreement about payment as soon as possible.  I believe they are liable for Amaral's costs as well which would probably form part of that negotiation.
After that they will legitimately have little left to pay for the affront to Amaral's dignity and recognition of his right to freedom of speech so I am sure they will be able to reach a legal accommodation regarding that.  While not having recourse to doing a Bennet ~ the effect could be similar.

The sale of Madeleine's and the twins home is quite an emotive thing to think about ... however that may be the upshot.  I wonder how many will find satisfaction in that.

I would feel the same as when I watch a sparrowhawk take a blue tit off the top of one my apple trees.
These things happen all the time, what is about this couple over all others that I should feel more, taste more and care more?
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Offline jassi

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #124 on: February 01, 2017, 03:58:53 PM »
So as far as you're concerned it was only ever about the money?  This is what I mean about doubters who have neither the imagination nor the empathy to put themselves into the  position of someone in such an invidfious situation because they refuse to accept the possibility that the McCanns might actually be innocent of Amaral's accusations.

Of course the appeal was about money.
On the one hand they had 500K and their costs within their grasp, on the other they stood to incur substantial costs.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #125 on: February 01, 2017, 03:59:17 PM »

Many of Amaral's plagues regarding his finances long predated his disastrous conduct of Madeleine's case.

He had problems with the tax authorities.

He was involved in an expensive divorce from his first wife.

He was involved in expensive litigation which he lost
  • with his brother who he defrauded
  • with Dr Marcos Aragão Correia who he accused of defamation
So he was doing a pretty good job of digging a financial hole for himself long before the McCanns ever set foot in Portugal.

Isn't this off topic? Crowdfunding the McCanns Litigation
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #126 on: February 01, 2017, 04:02:13 PM »
You keep reiterating this alternative fact.

Amaral merely gets his own money back which was sequestered.
The McCanns pay the Portuguese court for the legal costs

This alternative fact from the man who fought the law and won.......................... &%+((£
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #127 on: February 01, 2017, 07:33:31 PM »
This alternative fact from the man who fought the law and won.......................... &%+((£

I fought the law and won...absolutely

Offline faithlilly

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #128 on: February 02, 2017, 08:04:19 AM »
I would have done exactly the same as them.

And I would have considered how the money in the fund would be better used, to pay for individuals and awareness raising to find my daughter or to protect my own reputation by suing for libel in a country where I had very little knowledge of the law. I guess it shows how different we are Alfie
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Montclair

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #129 on: February 02, 2017, 09:59:57 AM »
AFAIK, the McCanns must pay Gonçalo Amaral's court costs as well as their own but not his lawyer's fees. As, the court costs have already been paid, I doubt that will be a problem. However, they probably face a very hefty bill from Isabel Duarte.

Offline jassi

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #130 on: February 02, 2017, 10:10:06 AM »
AFAIK, the McCanns must pay Gonçalo Amaral's court costs as well as their own but not his lawyer's fees. As, the court costs have already been paid, I doubt that will be a problem. However, they probably face a very hefty bill from Isabel Duarte.

Have you a cite for this?

It would seem very swift, given the judgement was only announced a couple of days ago The Portuguese Court must be very fast in rendering their accounts.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #131 on: February 02, 2017, 10:16:49 AM »
AFAIK, the McCanns must pay Gonçalo Amaral's court costs as well as their own but not his lawyer's fees. As, the court costs have already been paid, I doubt that will be a problem. However, they probably face a very hefty bill from Isabel Duarte.

interesting...thank you Montclair

Alfie

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #132 on: February 02, 2017, 11:33:58 AM »
And I would have considered how the money in the fund would be better used, to pay for individuals and awareness raising to find my daughter or to protect my own reputation by suing for libel in a country where I had very little knowledge of the law. I guess it shows how different we are Alfie
True, and I'm grateful for that.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #133 on: February 02, 2017, 12:22:25 PM »
Have you a cite for this?

It would seem very swift, given the judgement was only announced a couple of days ago The Portuguese Court must be very fast in rendering their accounts.

If it is similar to this country some of the fee is payable upfront when the papers are lodged with the court.
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Offline jassi

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #134 on: February 02, 2017, 12:26:23 PM »
If it is similar to this country some of the fee is payable upfront when the papers are lodged with the court.

What about the court costs for the earlier hearings - would they have been paid up front as well?
Will some need to be reimbursed now that Amaral has won?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future