Author Topic: Did the Tapas 9 group know in advance of child monitoring arrangements?  (Read 13049 times)

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Offline Alice Purjorick

I am saying they considered their own needs to be paramount. 
No one made them leave their children - they chose to do so, for whatever reason.

That is the crutch of the issue as you might say.
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Because it seemed safe at the time
Looking back it was a terrible mistake
Why do you think they left them

Your first line answers the question.

Offline faithlilly

Your first line answers the question.

But they had decided to do their own listening service before they even left England and although they were already aware that MW didn't offer it's own listening service because of the nature of the resort.
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Offline misty

But they had decided to do their own listening service before they even left England and although they were already aware that MW didn't offer it's own listening service because of the nature of the resort.

How was their own listening service going to work, then, when the group didn't even know which apartments they would be allocated? If they'd all been put in Waterside Village it wouldn't have worked and paying for half board would have been a total waste of money.

Offline faithlilly

How was their own listening service going to work, then, when the group didn't even know which apartments they would be allocated? If they'd all been put in Waterside Village it wouldn't have worked and paying for half board would have been a total waste of money.

I suppose that's why they made certain requests while booking.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline mercury

I suppose that's why they made certain requests while booking.
The real question is why anyone would want to run a baby listening service

Most normal people want to be sure their kids are ok in their absence, not just leave it to chance, its abnormal IMO , it is also abnormal to have a leisurely dinner whilst ones babies and toddlers are alone in an open apartment

But we musnt go on about it as the oFM webmaster thnks we are as irritating as piles and that they dont  care what anyone thinks of their chldcare lol
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Offline misty

I suppose that's why they made certain requests while booking.

What did those requests guarantee which made them sure they could plan their own form of listening service?

Offline G-Unit

How was their own listening service going to work, then, when the group didn't even know which apartments they would be allocated? If they'd all been put in Waterside Village it wouldn't have worked and paying for half board would have been a total waste of money.

Perhaps they weren't told exactly which apartments but were assured of proximity to a restaurant? David Payne'c correspondence included a discussion about meals.
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Offline Benice

I find it inconceivable that anyone could have considered it an acceptable way of looking after children.

Well many people obviously have considered it acceptable and some still do - i.e. all those parents who use the Listening Service and all those parents who take baby alarms with them - when they leave their children asleep and unattended and go for their evening meal.   

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Well many people obviously have considered it acceptable and some still do - i.e. all those parents who use the Listening Service and all those parents who take baby alarms with them - when they leave their children asleep and unattended and go for their evening meal.

Pray tell what is acceptable about people leaving children unprotected and by themselves, whilst out consuming alcohol and the odd snack at a Tapas ?

I'm all ears for that excuse.

Offline Mr Gray

Pray tell what is acceptable about people leaving children unprotected and by themselves, whilst out consuming alcohol and the odd snack at a Tapas ?

I'm all ears for that excuse.


acceptable to whom....or are you speaking for everyone now

Offline Benice

Pray tell what is acceptable about people leaving children unprotected and by themselves, whilst out consuming alcohol and the odd snack at a Tapas ?

I'm all ears for that excuse.

Why are you being so sarcastic?    - it is not an 'excuse' it's a fact that many people have and some still do use the Listening method of childcare and leave their children asleep and unattended in their rooms and go to dinner. 

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Pray tell what is acceptable about people leaving children unprotected and by themselves, whilst out consuming alcohol and the odd snack at a Tapas ?

I'm all ears for that excuse.

acceptable to whom...I'm all ears...or haven't you thought through what your post actually means

stephen25000

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Why are you being so sarcastic?    - it is not an 'excuse' it's a fact that many people have and some still do use the Listening method of childcare and leave their children asleep and unattended in their rooms and go to dinner.

How were they listening, if they didn't see the children ?

and can you cite how many of these people doing the same leave children in unlocked accomodation ?

Offline Benice

How were they listening, if they didn't see the children ?

and can you cite how many of these people doing the same leave children in unlocked accomodation ?

I'm sure you understand how the Listening Service works by now Stephen. 

Can you cite how many people have never gone out leaving their doors/windows unlocked either by accident or design when on holiday.    Of course you can't -  so no point in either of us asking questions which are clearly unanswerable.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal